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    Question Unmarked early Chinese ak question

    I just recently picked up a Chinese type 56 fixed stock stamped ak with red fiberglass furniture. There are no importer markings on the rifle. The trunnion has "56" and a 6 digit serial number. No arsenal stamp. No "Norinco" or "polytech" stamping. It is definately a 1.6mm Chinese receiver with "S" and "C" selector markings. No evil third pin hole. The original box shows the rifle was shipped to the retailer in 1987. The instruction pamphlet is a Norinco instruction pamphlet.

    I'll have pics up soon, but picture a Clayco fixed stock with red furniture and no markings on the rifle other than the selector and trunnion and that's what I've got. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

    New info: chicom47.com lists this as a very early example of a 56-S3 before they were marked as such on the trunnion. The import mark is on the barrel "IACO SAC CA".





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    Is the mark under the handguard?

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    Post Doc..

    Please get some picts. up. Sounds interesting.
    My pre bans "Chinese" 56-1 also has a 6 digit number on the trunion. No other markings.
    Dr. Ezells AK book has the 56-1 with a bayo lug for a fixed bayo. The 56, I believe has the underfolding bayo.
    Sounds like a good grab.
    I bought mine as kits and built on early Armory Global receivers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ACMcom View Post
    Is the mark under the handguard?
    No, it is roll marked between the front sight block and gas tube as pictured on this website: WipedOut
    If there is any doubt, then there is no doubt.

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    My Chinese came in kit form. Have not looked close at the barrels for markings. But either way you got a good find. A keeper.
    Guess? mine are the 56-s.
    Excellent shooters and the thicker receiver makes for a stronger rifle.
    No markings on my trunions except for the 6 digit numbers.
    Akron Armory told me about the kits coming in, I guess, just before the ban.
    I paid $125 each 5 years ago.
    Looking forward too seeing your pictures. Thanks for that great site on the Norincos.
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    Pics are up: I also have the original box and accessories including the matching red fiberglass bayonet. I am missing the gas port cleaning tool though.





    The only "Norinco" stamp is opposite the importer stamp pictured below. This stamp is the "IACO SAC CA" stamp, the other is "NORINCO 7.62"

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    Thumbs up Super Nice Grab..

    Doc. My Chinese cleaning kits did not come with gas port cleaners.
    I talked to a Hungarian Soldier. He said the first thing they threw away was the metal gas port cleaners.
    They used there boot laces or soft pipe cleaners when they had them.
    His words. "The metal gas port tools scored the port area. Further creating an area to rust the port."
    Two cleaning kits and no port cleaners. So I am just guessing, that maybe the Chinese may not have issued them.
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    No gas port cleaning tool? I'd demand my money back!

    Quote Originally Posted by docwade View Post
    Pics are up: I also have the original box and accessories including the matching red fiberglass bayonet. I am missing the gas port cleaning tool though.





    The only "Norinco" stamp is opposite the importer stamp pictured below. This stamp is the "IACO SAC CA" stamp, the other is "NORINCO 7.62"

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    I would give the seller a -100. Cheaters.
    Doc has probably got the best collection, next too the Moscow Historical Museum.
    Uncle Marv. A Winchester Club Member and old weapons collector $$$ has boxes worth more than I make in a year.
    When you purchase a weapon, do "Not" toss out the original container.
    My God, I could not believe how much collectors want too pay for original container boxes.
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    That looks nice, thanks for the pics
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