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Thread: AK 47 WASR 10" 7.62x39 to 223

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    inspect the other rounds carefull. if the the primers are starting to come bac e instad of a dent then its still got issues . the primer should just have a dent .

    I hand load an im at max when the primers have a dent with a ring coming back around the dent .

    the barrel being all welded to crap may have shrunk the bore or screwed it up an be causing high pressure . the weld is right abut were the bullet is or in front of it . no way that much welding was done with out affecting the bore.

    the gun is making high pressure with the one ammo you need to look the other stuff over really close .

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1biggun View Post
    AGAIN THE 30 ROUNDER IS A 7.62X39 MAG IT WILL NOT WORK FOR THIS GUN ITS THE WRONG MAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

    THE ROUNDS ARE LIKLEY BINDING UP ON HTE FOLLOWER STOP . OR JUST BINDING UP . SIMPLY OPUT ITS THE WRONG MAG DONT TRY TO USE IT IN 223 .

    They are junked. I only paid $7 for them.


    THE PIERCED PRIMERS ARE DUE TO SEVRAL REASONS . THE MAIN ONW IS THE AMMO IS LAODED TO HOT AN THE PRIMER IS TO SOFT . I GET THE SAME THING WITH SOME 5.56 NATO IN MY VARMINT BUILD . I LASO GET PRIMERS IMPACTS BLOWING BACK IF I USES CERTAIN SOFT PRIMMERS WITH THE bulgy BOLT THE PIN HOLE IS PRTTY BIG AN LIKEY ADDS TOT HE PROBLEM.

    DONT SHOOT THAT AMMO ANY MORE . AN EVEN IF TIS STAMPED 223 IT MIGTH BE 5.45 NATO OR THE BULLET SEATING IS TO LONG FOR YOUR GUN . WHO KNOWS ?

    I KNEW YOU HAD A FIRING PIN ISSUE WHEN YOU SAIT IT WAS HARD TO PUSH AN DIDNT EXTEND.
    Yea, it's a bitch To get the firing pin held in far enough to get the holding pin back in. Didn't get my thumb on it when I was taking the pin out and it shot across the room.
    The PMP ammo is labeled 3.56 g (55 gr) .223 Remington.
    Two of the rounds that didn't fire, when laid out with the others, had the bullet pushed back in the case, all that was showing was the tapered part.
    I don't know where my buddy bought this stuff. I have about 120 rounds. Would I dare shoot it in another gun?
    This gun is so screwed up I don't even think I could rebuild any part of it and feel comfortable it would be safe. Ever casing has a dent in the side .75" back from the front after firing the reloads. The primer impact has a raged ring around the firing pin strike point. I think I'm going to cut it in half and sell it as misc parts.

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    THE SIDE DENTS IN THE AMMO IS NORMAL AN NO BIG DEAL UNLESS YOU RELOAD . I HAVE A FIX FOR THAT. THE CASE IS HITTTING THE DUST COVER ON THE WAY OUT .

    Would I dare shoot it in another gun?
    TRY IT IN A BOLT ACTION OR AR.

    THE DENT AN RING PRIMER SITUATION IT PRETTY COMMON ON A BULGY BOLT . I NEED TO COMPARE PIN HOLE SIZE TO A AR OR BOLT ACTION SOME DAY . I CANT SEEM TO RUN MAXIMUM HAND LOADS ON MY GUNS WITH THE SAME BOLT UNLESS IM RUNNING HARDENED NATO TYPE PRIMERS LIKE FEDERAL SELLS IF YOU CAN FIND THEM . IM AT LIKE A GRAIN UNDER MAX ON ANY LOAD WITH CERTAIN PRIMERS .

    THE TRUNION BEING WELDED IS THE UNKNOW FOR ME . YOU COULD LIKELY REPLACE MOST OF WHAT YOU NEED FOR ABOUT $300 OR LESS . iM FIGURING $100 FOR A BARREL OR SO, $100 FOR A TRUNION AN $100 FOR A RECIVER . TYE RECVIER YOU HAVE WORKS BUT ITS PRETTY ROUGH.

    SOME GUYS WILL TELL YOU TO JUST RUN IT AN IT MGHT NEVER FAIL I JUST WOULD NOT TRUST MY LIFE ON IT .

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    Quote Originally Posted by lscheibenberger View Post
    Two of the rounds that didn't fire, when laid out with the others, had the bullet pushed back in the case, all that was showing was the tapered part.

    This will spike pressures also. Never fire a round that the bullet has been pushed back like that.

    And yep, 1Biggun was right on the bolt.

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    Thanks, I am thinking I will take it apart and see how it goes. I don't think I could sell it if there was even a chance it could blow up. I think it will be fun to take down even if I never rebuild it. At least it doesn't blow up in someones face.

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    the bullets are likely hitting the bullet guide an being forced back into the case .

    hollow points are hard to feed in some 223 aks .

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    The rounds are hitting the face of the barrel when loading. The "made in Bulgaria" magazine kicks the shell to center and they go in the chamber good, the two Tapco, Bulgaria 20 round mags don't have the same little raised area at the front side that kicks the round in. The rounds hit the barrel at about 5 or 7 o'clock.

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    I have found some barrels but want a new one, will a
    (Bulgarian Krinkov barrel for 5.56x45 (.223 caliber). Hammer forged chrome lined New pre-ban 23mm barrel) work on this gun, I have my name in to get a 7.62x39 100% receiver and hope I can save my trunion on the old welded up one.

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    The krink won't work for my build, found a picture in the library. Why do some barrels have left hand threads and where would you find the flash hiders or brakes for left hand threads. I found a lot of info in the library but nothing on the left hand threads.
     
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    Why do some barrels have left hand threads and where would you find the flash hiders or brakes for left hand threads. I found a lot of info in the library but nothing on the left hand threads.
    almost all AKs have lh threads the weiger is an exception . some cugir 223,s had 1/2 rh htreads.

    the 223 is a odd ball in the ak world there is no standard every country did there own thing as far as mags an other stuff.

    you should get a 223 or 5.45 recvier if your going to build a 223.. the ejectr tip needs to be longer than a 7.62x39 recvier .

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