Can you Rivet in the lower Rails? All I see is folks spot welding them in. I seem not to be able to find much info on Riveting in the rails. Were they originally riveted in?
ok let me get this straight you guys can afford all these jigs you don't even need to do the job buy you cant afford a cheap wire feed or have some one weld 8 plug welds?Gonna go with the Rivets Do not have access to a Spot Welder and we are not going to buy one. My friend already bought the drilling jig and is going to buy the trunion drilling jig. You can only buy so much for tools before it becomes cost prohibitive. My friend has a wire feed but like it was mentioned welding can be tricky if you do not do it all the time.
you cant drill a few 3/16 holes an stick the wire in the center of the hole an count to 4 or 5 while you move in a small circle an sand a bump down lush with a flap disk on a 4.5" grinder .I have a little mig welder but even with grinding I have a feeling I will booger them if I try to weld
I have a honest question then. How much force is being put on the rails when the gun is cycling? If a *perfect* weld isn't necessary then I may attempt to drill and fill.you cant drill a few 3/16 holes an stick the wire in the center of the hole an count to 4 or 5 while you move in a small circle an sand a bump down lush with a flap disk on a 4.5" grinder .
Id recommend getting some scraps an spending 10 minutes practicing . a monkey with a rock can do this.
If you drill fill a 1/8" or better just under a 3/16" hole starting at the center of the hole there is no way they will fall of they will be stonger than a factory spot weld . there is not a huge amount of force.I have a honest question then. How much force is being put on the rails when the gun is cycling? If a *perfect* weld isn't necessary then I may attempt to drill and fill.
IMO your messing the recvcier up by using screws or rivets. an not taking the time to learn a needed skill is taking the easy way out . if you had worked at learning to plug weld it might be harder but your not willing to learn so yes IMO your doing it a easy way.It is not taking the easy way out it is doing it with our worrying about messing up the blank.
who here is supporting the rivet or screw route ? there saying like I say it will work . those same guys your thanking, are also telling you they don't go that route any more . whats the point of buying rivet tool? juss beat them over with a hammer if looks are not important Ive done It that way it WORKS It also looks like crap but its easy.I think as does my friends the rivets are the safe way to go and it is our projects as long as we are happy with the results that is what matters. I thank the other folks that are going or went the rivet route.
are you thinking a chain break?And for the record I cant afford any fancy tools, I'm going to build it the best I can with what I have. I have an idea for neatly smashing the rivets that involves a motorcycle tool, I plan on letting you guys know how it works out. If I end up buying a nodak receiver that's fine, but I'm gonna see what I can do first without dropping the $100.
jimraynor21 the rail with the ejector will be taking the most force when the case is ejected. The other rail just needs to be aligned well.I have a honest question then. How much force is being put on the rails when the gun is cycling? If a *perfect* weld isn't necessary then I may attempt to drill and fill.
You don't need fancy tools.And for the record I cant afford any fancy tools,
:thumbup1:I didn't weld the rails yet but I practiced on a few scrap pieces of metal, to my surprise I had no blowouts and the welds withstood many blows from a hammer.
practice practice practice .Hey biggun thanks for smacking me. I didn't weld the rails yet but I practiced on a few scrap pieces of metal, to my surprise I had no blowouts and the welds withstood many blows from a hammer.