I haven't run across much in the way of posts for accurized ("sniper" for want of a better term) rifles. Does GUNCO.net have a section I've so far missed?
HMMMM WELL SINCE ONLU ABOUT .0005% OF THE READERS WILL EVER SHOT A RIFLE FOR THE PURPOSE OF BEING A SNIPER IT MIGHT BE BETTER TO CALL IT A TARGET RIFLE. IN TRUTH THATS WHAT IT IS EVEN TRUE SNIPER RIFLES SHOT BY SNIPERS SELDOM GET SHOT AT PEOPLE. IN FACT IN THE USA LEO SNIPER RIFLES LIKELY EVER GET SHOT AT ON A REAL HUMAN. THERE A TARGET RIFLE WITH A FEW DOD ADS TO MAKE THEM BETTER SUITED FOR SHOOTING FROM NON TRADITIONL BENCHES.
PERSONALY CALLING A BOLT ACTION RIFLE A SNIPER RIFLE LEAVES A BAD TASTE IN MY MOUTH. ITS WHAT THE GUN GRABBERS WILL BE GOING AFTER THEY GET ALL THE ASSULT WEAPONS OUT OUR HANDS.
IT STIKES ME AS FUNNY THAT MOST OF TODAYS SNIPER RIFLES IN 308 OR 300 MG ARE BASED ON HUNTING RIFLE ACTIONS OR MODIFICATIONS OF THEM. OF COURSE THOSE DESIGNS ARE BASED OF A LOT OF MAUSER DESIGNS. ITS SORT OF A WEIRD CIRCLE OF EVOLUTION. A DESIGN MADE TO BE A BATTEL RIFEL IS TAKEN REFINED TO BE A BETTER HUNTING RIFLE OR TARGET RIFLE AN THEN THOSE REFINEMETNS ARE USED TO MAKE IT A BETTER PEOPLE SHOOTER.
THERE IS NOTHING REALLY DIFFERANT ASIDE FROM TRIGGER PULL AN BARREL WEIGHT THAN A REALLY GOOD HUNTING RIFLE. SOMETHING MANY US SNPIER RILFES ACTUALY WERE IN THE BEGINING. ESPECALY INTHE 1960,S
THERE ARE SPECIAL SCOPES BUT THERE NOTHING MORE THAN A TARGET SCOPE WITH MAYBE A LITTLE HEAVIER CONSTRUCTIONS AN SOME EXTRA DOTS INTHE CROSS HAIRS.
THERE ARE LOTS OF SIGHTS ABOUT BOLT ACTION RIFLES AN MAKING THEM ACCURATE.
LOOK A BENCHREST CENTRAL FOR EXAMPLE. THOSE GUYS ARE SHOOTING SUB 1/2" GROUPS AT 300 YARDA AN FURTHER. THEY GET INTO SUCH TECHNICAL STUFF IT MAKES YOUR HEAD SPIN.
THERE IS WEAPONS GUILD, GREAY BEARDS, A FEW MILITARY GUN SITES.
GUNCO IS HERE TODAY IMO BECAUSE 8 YEARS AGO IT WAS THE PLACE TO LEARN HW TO MAKE A PILE OF AK PARTS GO BANG.
SINCE BUILDING HAS DIED DOWN THANKS TO THE INTERNET AN SITES LIKE THIS MAKING IT EASY AN MAKING DEMAND HIGHER THUS DRIVING UP PRICES AN REDUCING AVALIABLE PARTS , GUNCO HAS SLOWLY BEGAN TO SLOW TO A CRAWL. 8 YEARS AGO OR SO THERE WOULD BE AT LEAST 10 TIMES THE ACTIVITY HERE. MAINY INTHE BUILD IT YOUR SELF AREAS. NOW A LOT OF THE SITE IS IN THE GENERAL DISCUSSION BITCHING ABOUT THE PRESIDENT, GOVERMENT, COPS OR WHAT EVER.
THERE IS NOTHING NEW ABOUT LATELY ABOUT BOLT ACTIONS ITS ALL BEEN DONE TO A POINT. THERE ARE NO CHEAP ACTIONS THAT ARE ANY GOOD TO PLAY WITH.
IF YOU WANT TO BUILD A BOLT ACTION YOU TRUE THE RECIVER, BUY AN OR TURN A BARREL BLANK, BED A GOOD STOCK AN ADD A SCOPE RAIL. ITS ALOMST IMPOSSABLE TO BUILD A MAUSER OR OTHER ACTION CHEAPER TO OUT SHOOT A $400 SAVAGE BOLT ACTION RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX.
THE REMINGTON 700 IS THE SMALL BLOCK CHEVY OF THE GUN WORLD. THERE ARE MORE PARTS AND UPGRADES AN WAYS TO TRICK THEM OUT THAN ANY OTHER BOLT ACTION IN THE WORLD. THEY WERE THE ACTION TO USE IN BENCH REST FOR MANY YEARS AN STILL ARE USED SOME AFTER CUSTOM HEAVIER ACTIONS HAVE NOW REPLACED THEM. THE REMIONGTON 700 WAS DESIGNED TO BE A GOOD HUNTING RIFLE IT RPLEACE THE 721 TYPE RILFE THAT WERE ALMOST IDENTICAL.
PERSONALY ID TAKE A WINCHESTER PRE 69 M70 ANY DAY OVER A M700.
THE M700 WAS CHEAPER SO ITS WHAT GUYS MESSED WITH ( JUST LIKE THE CHEVY)
IM NOT REALLY SURE HOW MUCH BETTER THE SPS TATICAL IS OVER A PLAIN JANE 700 VARMIT RIFLE AS FAR A TRIGGER, ACTION , OR BARREL. IS THE BARREL HAMMER FORGED CRAP OR DO THEY SELL YOU ABTTER BARREL NOW ON THE SPS ????
EVER NOTICE HOW MANY HEAVY TATICAL SNIPER BARREL ARE ON GUN BROKER??? LIKLEY BECAUSE ITS THE FIRST THING THAT GOES ON A TRUE SNIPER RILFE.
IMO SAVAGE SELLS THE BEST BARREL ON A OUT OF THE BOX RIFLE UNDER $600. YOUR GOING TO NEED TO PAY ALMOST DOUBLE TO GET A MORE ACCURATE GUN THAN THE SAVAGE. I SHOOT VARMINT AN EVERY GUY A GO WITH HAS AT LEAST ONE SAVAGE 223 OR 22-250 AN THEY ALL OUT SHOOT ANY OF THE MORE EXPENSIVE REMINGTON VARMINT RIFLES. WHATS INTERSTING TO ME IS THE SAVAGE HAS A FLOATING BOLT HEAD THAT ALLOWS THE CHAMBER TO DO ALL THE WORK IN POSITIONING THE ROUND. IT GOES AGASINST MOST TARGET RIFLE WISDOM. IMO IT WORKS BECAUSE ALL THE OTHER GUNS ARE NOT MADE VERY WELL TO BGINE WITH AN A TIGHT NON TRUED A BULE PRINTED ACTION WITH A TIGHT BOLT ACTUALY CAUSE MORE ISSUES THAN THE SOLVE. IMO IF YOUR GOING TO HAVE A REMIGTON OR OTHER SET UP THE BOLT HAS TO BE IN PERFECT ALGIGNMENT WITHTE CHAMBER AN ON A PRODUCTION GUN ITS SIMPLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. SO EVEN THOUGH A FLOATING HEAD WILL NOT GIVE YOU NECH REST ACCURACY IT WILL OUT DO A IMPERFECT NO FLOATING BOLT GUN. IMO IT BASICALY TAKES THE ACTION OUT OF THE EQUATON OTHER THAN TO HOLD THE SCOPE. SAVAGE LETS THERE BETTER BARRELS DO THERE TALKING. iD BE WILLING TO BET IF YOU TOOK A GOOD SAVAGE BRREL CUT IT TO FIT ON A REMINGTON ACTION AN LEFT EVERY THING ELSE ALONE THE REMINGTOM WOULD GET BETTER. IMO
I HAVE A AK IN 223 WITH A 26 INCH HEAVY VARMINT BARREL MADE FROM A SAVAGE TAKE OFF BARREL. IT HAS ATLEAST A 1/16 " OR MORE OF VERTICAL AN HORIZANTAL PLAY INTHE BOLT AN CARRIER AN YET IT WILL SHOOT 1/2 GROUPS. IN FACT IT IS DAMM NEAR AS GOOD AS THE BOLT ACTIONS THE BARREL COMES OFF OF. MY THEROY IS MY BOLT IS FLOATING VERY MUCH LIKE THE SAVAGE BOLT HEAD AN THE PERCISION CHAMBER AN AN BARREL ARE DOING THE WORK OF POSITIONG THE ROUND AN NOT LETTING THE BOLT AFFECT IT. IN OTHER WORDS TAKING THE ACTION OUT OF THE EQUATION. IMO YOU NEED TO GET DOWN INTO THE 1/4" MOA AREA BEFORE ACTION FLEX AN ALL THE OTHER BENCH REST STUFF MAKES A DIFFERANCE. STOCK BEDDING AN ALL THAT STUFF ARE A PRODUCT OF MAKING THE ACTION PART OF THE BARREL. IMO.
SORRY FOR THE LONG POST TO MUCH COFFEE
YEA A BOLT ACTION THREAD WOULD NOT BE A BAD IDEA. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE BETTER THAN THE UNUSED SAIGA THREAD AREA.