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Thread: Ciener - RIP OFF - Conversion Kit

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    Check cleared. U.S. postal service. Interstate fraud. "Federal Offense"
    FELONY. Call the Feds. The ATF has signs in every Gun shop asking to report problems and for us Legal gun owners to help them.
    Once the Feds are on his ass he probably won't be able to sell daisey B.B. guns at the flea market. Good Luck.
    "Man needs but two things to survive alone in the woods. A blow up female doll and his trusty old AK-47" - Thomas Jefferson 1781


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    BigAl has a Ciener kit with his FA AC556. He hasn't installed it yet and not sure how it will work. That might be a project for the next time we do some shooting. Hell, I'll even spring for the ammo!!

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    I was seriously considering getting a Ciener AK47 7.62x39 conversion kit but now I'll reconsider after reading the above posts, Guns & Ammo claims there great people with
    a good product. I have a AR 15 conversion kit which I really like to shoot 22"s in but it's
    an Army conversion kit. With the costs of ammo going nothing but sky high, a 22 brick looks
    better all the time for practice
    Xfrog

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    Good idea!!!! So where would one look for affordable and reputable AK .22 conversion kits?
    Also for the 1911's?

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    midwayusa sells a few different brand.22 conversion kits for the 1911 MidwayUSA - Search Results

    as for the ak kit - it seems JAC is the only game in town. Seeing spikes tactical makes one for the AR, maybe if there was enough interest they could make one for the AK (I know probably wishful thinking on my part). Also if there was a more popular .22 conversion for the ak maybe BDM could be talked into making .22 AK mags (the .22 AR mags they make are awesome) (I know probably even more wishful thinking).
    "To show you how radical I am, I want carjackers dead. I want rapists dead. I want burglars dead. I want child molesters dead. I want the bad guys dead. No court case. No parole. No early release. I want 'em dead. Get a gun and when they attack you, shoot 'em."
    Ted Nugent - speaking at the NRA convention April 17, 2005

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    Ceiner probably has his AK conversion patented, so unless someone comes up with a completely different way of doing it they will probably run into patent issues.

    OTOH, making a dedicated .22lr AK from spare parts should be possible. An old corroded shot out Yugo front end could be sleeved with a .22 bbl liner for a bbl, from there it's simply a matter of stuffing a bolt and recoil spring from an existing .22 in there. The Remington 590 comes to mind as it rides on two rods (copied from the M3 Greasegun) that could be adapted to the AK receiver without major mods. You could even make a drop in "box" to hold the rods and bolt, removed and installed as a unit. IIRC, a 10/22 hicap mag fits within the width of the AK receiver.......

    Even a cut bbl kit would be ideal, just use a rod down the bore to align the bbl pieces and weld or braze them back together. Rifling alignment doesn't matter as it is getting the .22 liner anyway.

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    Great idea Kernel, now to get some one to build one so we can copy it!!!!!!!!! I wonder how
    a 5.45x39 with a chamber insert would do? A few Ruger parts and presto. I love it, my Ak74 will be a whole new gun.
    Xfrog

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    I have a rebuilt east german MPi 69 22 cal training rifle which I bought a long time back that said

    a 5.45 barrel with chamber insert may work, mags are available for $25 its the bolt you need I have seen them for sale, everyonce and awhile. I used a bent metal blank and drilled the holes no internal rail is needed, a plate is in place to support the mag. I took out the f/a sear and assembled. since I can not get complaint parts I strip it down to parts after each use, it is held together with long electrical nuts and bolts, instead of rivets

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    ceiner has had complaints about his stuff for many years and he still turns out the junk and gets away with it. The good die young and the A holes live forever.

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    Yet another reason why I won't buy from Ciener. I've had companies that have tried that with me and some of my friends. After a few days of redialing them on the phone every few minutes finally got them to do right.

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