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    that bites! sorry to hear about your probs

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    Default I own Elk River

    I am not very happy with what has been said about me and my company. I have been very honest with every one who I/we deal with.

    We charged accordingly for assembling and finishing a virgin kit.

    There was damage to the carrier and the cover, not the bolt that I saw when it came back and I was very pissed off!!! We paid for shipping both ways, replaced everything that was asked to be replaced and more. There wasn't a problem with the head space, I checked it and test fired it before any work was redone.

    jmon1490, I can understand being upset I was under the impression that you were happy with your pistol but if there is an ongoing problem it needs to be addressed in order for it to be resolved. I stand behind every job that goes out the door regardless of the circumstance! I would even replace the pistol if that was what would reconcile the problem because that's who I am, I stand behind all work performed.

    Hightower, you know me. The reason why you went to Andre is because he was less expensive. I can't blame you for that.

    I would never allow anyone to go away unhappy as I was with Gucci-cono to the tune of $6K. I had over $15K there before I retrieved most of my things back that were mostly unsalvagable. I KNOW HOW IT IS TO GET TAKEN!!!

    I also lost a complete Romanian 7.62x39 PSL barreled action and parts to Mike Prewitt at MSC before Gucci-cono. This is why I have a full lifetime warranty that follows the rifle, if you are not happy for what ever reason it will be resolved.

    Jimmy Streetman and Ron Yates DO NOT WORK FOR ELK RIVER TOOL AND DIE THEY NEVER HAVE OR WILL!!!!

    When I purchased the assets of Armory USA not Global Trades, I kept the employees that were here. I was very shocked with the quality of work they were putting out and had to have a complete review of the assembly process even to the point of classes. I ended up firing some and some quit because they didn't want to change from the old Armory ways. I even repaired rifles for free that I never even had a thing to do with because this is who I am and what I stand for....does anyone else?

    It has been a "hard row to hoe" since I left Montana (please forgive me God) to come here, everything from stamping presses, cnc machines, spot welders, bad heat treating, employees, wife, exwife etc., etc. yet I have never fogotten why I do this. It isn't for the money, I make half of what I made in Montana doing the same thing. It's for the love of the rifle and the desire to see as many people have a quality receiver and rifle that they can depend on, as possible.

    Every week I deal with my wife, ex-wife, 4 living children 3 who live in Canada, my son who died 3 years ago and only lived for 1 and a half hours, 13 employees, the 6 lines of phone ringing, questions are answered no matter how stupid they may seem, walk in custumers are taken care of, atleast 30-40 rifles are returned to their owners, receivers are finished and sold, 200 rifles are refinished for distributers, this is every week.

    If anyone has a problem with a rifle that has been assembled here they need to let us know so it can be taken care of, again this is how I do business.

    I've run off 3 other genius gunsmiths. In January I hired Cody Baker-15 year AK gunsmith, Santiago Perez-13 year AK gunsmith and Jack Ryan- 6 years AK gunsmith from RPG who all used to work for Arsenal USA. Along with Keith we have the most knowledge and qualifications than any other shop, period!

    I challenge anyone who wants to stand in my shoes and tell me how it's done to come try! Then you can tell me how bad a shop I run and for all the very many other great customers, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUAL BUSINESS!!!

    I am a Marine, this ship is MY ship. IT WILL NOT SINK!!

    Semper Fi

    Hector E Bennett
    President
    Elk River Tool and Die, Inc.

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    Excellent response

    and a belated welcome to Houston.

    P.S. All my exes do live in Texas


    Did I do that?

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    I am not very happy with what has been said about me and my company. I have been very honest with every one who I/we deal with.
    THANKS FOR THE PERSONAL RESPONSE AND YOUR SIDE OF THINGS. IMOO IS RIGHT FOR YOU TO DO IT THERE ARE ALWAYS TWO SIDES TO THINGS. . I HOPE YOU STICK AROUND THIS SITE AND FROM TIME TO TIME HANG OUT AND PROVIDE YOUR INPUT ON WHAT EVER YOU FEEL. IM SURE YOUR BUSY BUT HEARING FROM ONE OF THE PLAYERS IN THIS INDUSTRY IS A GOOD THING. IM SURE THERE ARE MEMBERS HERE WHO HAVE MANY QUESTIONS. IM SURE YOUR ADVICE WOULD BE WELL TAKEN ESPECIALY ON THE INS AND OUT OF MANUFACTURING AND BUILDING AS WELL AS SOME OF THE LEGAL ASPECTS. WELCOME

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    a problematic owner and opperation from my experience

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    Quote Originally Posted by vladimir View Post
    a problematic owner and opperation from my experience
    And here's your experience
    http://www.gunco.net/forums/f36/elk-...company-45344/

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    Default Elk River Tool & Die

    I have been working with Elk River for over a year. Hector has been great...we discussed the assembly of six Tabuk Plus rifles...I supplied the parts and they, that is Keith, put them together just as we agreed...F I N E workmanship...excellent rifles...Each and every thing we discussed was done to my complete satisfaction...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog17 View Post
    I have been working with Elk River for over a year. Hector has been great...we discussed the assembly of six Tabuk Plus rifles...I supplied the parts and they, that is Keith, put them together just as we agreed...F I N E workmanship...excellent rifles...Each and every thing we discussed was done to my complete satisfaction...

    is that suppose to be a tabuk plus rifle?
    that looks like a yugo with a tabuk muzzle brake on the end of the barrel and an ar-15 stock set on the other end. i never saw a tabuk rifle like that before.
    er! thanks for the picture and i am real glad you got what you asked for and are happy about it.

    it is hard to see the rest of the rifle in the picture to see what was else was done.......
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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    Bull dog thats a nice custom AK, It does differ considerably from any tabuk I have seen also. Still it is an interesting take on the Tabuk concept.

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    Default One man's perspective...

    I've met Hector and Keith and had the tour of ERT&D. Stand up guys, both of them I'd say. Bulldog17 got exactly what he wanted from ERT&D. I have fired one of his rifles and the ammo is the limiting factor. The rifle is a quality piece of work. As soon as anyone shows up with a spec sheet for a standard Tabuk DMR, then we will all know what one really is. I have seen numerous variations photographed and from what I can tell, any style of AK/AKM is as much a Tabuk as all others. Some have PSO scopes, some have PSOP scopes, some have no scope, one even has an RPG sight cobbed on it. Some have long barrels w/slotted flash dispersers, some have what appears to be standard AK barrels and slant breaks. Front sight mounts have either round or oval lightening hole, usually. So, what makes it a Tabuk? Probably the number one factor is the trigger nut aiming it at you. About the only thing for certain is that none of us is likely to live long enough to be able to own a real one legally. We might be able to look at one through glass in a museum someday. Then, we'd know what that one looked like but we'd be no further along to having a standard definition because a Tabuk is firearms folk art from Iraq.

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