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    Default 1891/30 barrel

    I have this Russian MN 1924 Dragoon rifle That has a strange barrel.
    The barrel has 2" added on to it. Has been welded on top and bottom.
    Real clean welds, plus it's hard to tell it's been done. The groves stop
    2" from top of barrel.
    Any one seen this before?
    Last edited by jimmy t; 06-13-2012 at 08:39 PM.
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    I'm thinking you meant a dragoon?

    To help any more, I'd sure need to see pictures.
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    Never seen that before, possibly a added on counterbored muzzle, seen them before to protect the end of the rifling, pretty common on muzzle loaders to be counterbored,,for that and to help start the sabot straight. But never seen one that sounds like it was added later on anything????
    Does it look like the barrel had been bobed a bit, measure if you can find length specs for that gun.

    The only other thing I could think of is possibly a thread protector that blended in well after an arsinal refininsh and was tack welded on for compleyince. A real good close up pic here or inspection with an eye loop by you could definatly help in picking out a "parting line",, but if I had to guess,, it would be the latter of my guess's, a well blended in thread protector of some type. Reserch if that gun ever had a threaded barrel in it's production run and that could tell allot there. If it did I'd be willing to bet thats what it is.

    You never said if the gun was original or bubba-ed or if the bore in that extension was close to being the same as the rifleing dia., could have been an attempt to change the barrel profile after removing a front sight tube, without recrowning the barrel after a cutting off, anouther possibility. Pics please, there working now.

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    Like twa said probably for compliance. Back in the day when rifle bbl's had to be 18" to be legal some importers welded an extension to make short bbl rifles come up to 18". I have read about 94 swedish carbines that were done this way. Later the min length was changed to 16". Could this be the case?
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    Re-reading the OP, what he's describing sounds like a counterbored barrel with a roughness resembling welding near the muzzle. Is the overall length of the rifle just over 48"? If so, the barrel is a standard length and has not been lengthened.

    See Mosin Nagant Rifle Specifications for various Mosin dimensions.
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    need pictures.

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    How long is the bbl?
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