Yep. just two rivet holes to relocate and weld up the old ones.
I am considering getting a Champion pistol to SBR, but would like a fixed stock. Would removing the rear of the Champion or Draco's receiver and adding a traditional Romanian rear AKM trunion be all that's required? Would it be fairly simple? I'd have a gunsmith do it.
Here's the Draco that inspired me.
Do you mean having a short barrel? It should be just as good as a 16" barrel (or close to it), it's the long shots that will be less accurate.I think the Champion and Draco pistols have an 11.5" barrel. Would this majorly affect the accuracy of the .223 round out to 100 yards?
I got a 7 1/2" barreled AR pistol and bench it to shoot at clay birds at 100 yards once & a while, it's not super accurate but I can still hit the birds
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The accuracy can be very good on a short barrel just look at pistols like the thompson encore. you will how ever loose a lot of velocity over a 16" and they lose velocity over a 24 or 26" barrel.
Other than looks im not sure what the point of having a short barrel then adding a long fiked stock. IMO the whole odea of a sbr is to have a compact easy to manuver possabley conceable firearm. adding the fixed stock would take a lot of that away. I like the looks just not sure if the practicality of it works. A folder would make more sence if I had to SBR the thing. not a slam just a observation.
bTW if it is accurate at 100yards in 223 it would be accurate at 200 also. after that the loss in velocity will start making range estimation more critical but it still will be going faster than a 7.62x39 at 200 yards. It would be pretty much the same as the short barreld m16 variants our troops use as far as speed and accuracy just slightly slower than a 14" barrel.
I had/built a AMD 65 pistol converted to 223 with a 14" barrel and it was fun to shoot. the accuracy at 100 Yards was about 1.5" off of sand bags with optics and a good trigger. The barrel was made from a used remington m700 that had some rounds down the barrel. so it might have done better with a bettter barrel. I found it wasent good for much (im a hunter) and ended up rebarreling it into a 18" 223 and added a amd folder for a sort of folding amd 63 with slightly longer barrel type deal. I then sold it minus reciver as a kit.
I think the short fixed Ace stock would be great.
Last edited by Johnny 5.56; 01-31-2012 at 09:17 AM.
Most Draco conversions I've seen have some sort of folder on them, but that fixed stock looks pretty nice on there. Probably not real effective for OAL shortening, but there's just something about the wood look.
I'm with you on the wood Johnny. I had a hard time converting one of my 74's over to black poly furniture, just because I love the look of well polished wood. (No wisecracks, I haven't done that since I was in prison!!! JK. LOL.)
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