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    Default Selling a bent flat

    What is the step where a flat becomes a receiver that must be sent to an FFL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmr1010 View Post
    What is the step where a flat becomes a receiver that must be sent to an FFL?

    i have bought bent steel to make receivers from. they had no holes, dimples cut outs--nothing but plain steel.

    i figure if it has any holes drilled or cut it probably a no no- YMMV.

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    What i have seen is that once a flat is bent, its a full receiver.

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    Not disagreeing with any previous posts.

    If it is a shell, no holes at all, it is not a receiver.

    If it is a flat, not bent, but has holes, it is not a receiver.

    Any combination of the above, and it is potentially a receiver.

    An abundance of caution is my advise. If in doubt, treat it like it was a receiver.

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    Ok, great advise. Thanks, Better to be safe.

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    The way you get a letter from ATF saying your product is "not a receiver" is send a sample in and they make a decision. The savvy businessman sends in several samples in varying degrees of completion and finds the exact point where ATF says "this is a receiver" and sells the product one operation shy of that point. Flats originally were just that, flat. Then apparently ATF approved some with pre-bent top rails and everybody sells them that way now.

    If the flat is bent in any way beyond what the maker put in it, you have most likely crossed over the line and made a receiver. If more bends were allowed, someone would be selling them.

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    Makes sense to me.

    I ask because I have an AK Builders flat that was bent but then nothing more for a kit that I ended up selling. Don't want to have wasted the $35 for the flat.

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    The way you get a letter from ATF saying your product is "not a receiver" is send a sample in and they make a decision.
    And if someone else sends in the identical item the next week, they'll make another decision, which may not be the same. This is why there is no official "80%", nor is that term used anywhere by ATF.

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    Better to waste $35 than get in trouble with the ATF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo View Post
    Better to waste $35 than get in trouble with the ATF.
    Absolutely!

    I have a few extra bulged trunnions, I might just build a mutt at some point.

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