I only have one like that with the folding stock. the other ones are fixed stock,and I put up an add for some take off saiga but stocks. I really want to start building and have been at collecting and building tools when I can..its been since I joined gunco that I was ready to build but life and the addicting aspect of this hobbie has always drawn things out.(started out wanting to build 1 and now 4) on an up note I ordered a lower tong and a couple other things from Curtis this week and that should help me out doing the flats I have to bend. I ordered the tong because I was trying to reinvent the wheel with the help of the library...and my first 2 attempts wont help me build but might on the van I have to fix. I might as well just put the folder away and concentrate on the flats now I have the right stuff on its way.