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and are kinda hard to be used in any real tactical role
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completly dissagree I shoot mine out to 200 yards on deer an it shoots 1" groups at 100 yards. just add a scope or red dot and shoot it head down on the dust cover with the trigger in the same position as a archery release. it is likley better as a an entery weapon than a AK rifle in this configuration.
The amd 65 pistol has taken nurmerous deer over the last few years including two bucks at 225 yards back to back. it shoots 1" groups fairly consistanly. the pistol for sale above likely can come close with a scope or red dot. im quicker with these than normal deer rifles.