Originally Posted by Coastie Kyle
WOW. And what would you know? I'm not trying to start an argument, but you are wrong in so many ways. Actually, you are out of your f-ing mind. If I did actually argue it would be WAY to long of a post. Some "non-military" facts for you: The USCG is the "longest continuing sea going service",since the Navy was disbanded a few times. The reason we are not under the DOD, is because of our law enforcement/counter terrorism mission. The other four under DOD cannot do what we do in that area (ie. boarding vessels without cause). Thereís a bunch of WWII Marines, and Vietnam aviators, and even a few Marine corp aircrews around here who would also disagree with you on your "USCG is not military" quote. They do not award the Medal of Honor, to a non-military branch. A non military branch does not operate naval destroyers and landing craft. A non military branch does not secure off shore oil platforms in the beginning of the Iraq war, and stay till the end. I donít care to much what you say about me, but you basically just sh-t all over thousands of coasties that died serving their country in the UNITED STATES MILITARY, as well as hundreds of thousands that have served.
Your own argument admits that the Coast Guard is not a part of the military so I am not sure why you are getting so spun up about this. The Judge Advocate General corps agrees with you and states that the Coast Guard can not be a part of the DOD because of their maritime law enforcement duties. Federal law prohibits the military from enforcing laws within the nations borders. That is not to say that they don't have wartime duties that mirror those of the military but then again, so does the rest of the law enforcement community and for that matter the Civil Air Patrol (also not military). Some of your other arguments don't really address the issue either like the fact that the CG is "the longest continuing sea going service". The merchant marine is also a sea going service and so is the NOAA and neither of them are military either. The fact that some of our Merchant marine fought in WWII doesn't change that.
And where exactly do you get the idea that I "basically just shit all over thousands of coasties that died serving their country". Did you not see the part where I said "Not much of a distinction really because they have fought in damn near every conflict we have been involved in since their inception and their service has matched that of every branch under the DOD". How exactly is that shitting on the service of others. Maybe you didn't know this but police that are killed in the line of duty are not military but paramilitary and I am not disrespecting their service either. Same can be said about the firefighters and other emergency workers and I honor them as well. I will also add that our civilian intelligence (paramilitary) and federal law enforcement workers who are currently overseas on the front lines of the current war on terrorism are most definately not military either and that does not in any way diminish their service. Is it somehow a slight to the DOD civilian or CIA contractor killed in the service to country to point out that they were a civilian?
If anyone here can show me how it is that I supposedly dishonored the Coast Guard I would like to see it.