View Full Version : vietcong ZB 26
02-09-2006, 10:57 PM
just snapped this up on gunbroker? I think I see posibilities how about you?
was this a good deal for 250?
Sounds unique! Maybe the barrel isn't welded shut and the block can be cut out and cleaned up. Then make it in to a semi. But I don't know if it's legal to activate a dewat?????
02-10-2006, 12:18 AM
thats what im thinking? have to see more when i get it. but definitley dont want to end up at club fed
02-10-2006, 12:59 AM
It's not a dewat if it truly was cut up & then rewelded as a solid receiver.
When it was cut, it became scrap metal. Just like kits recently imported.
02-10-2006, 01:18 PM
To meet BATF regs, the gun was functionally destroyed and will never chamber a round, function, cycle, etc. It
Sounds like they plugged the barrel...
02-10-2006, 01:48 PM
think its usable to build a semi? is it worth price?
02-10-2006, 02:31 PM
anyone have an idea of value??
02-10-2006, 03:14 PM
Value as parts is less than the current price of a ZB26 parts set, because of the additional alteration to the kit being welding up as a dummy. I would think there is little possibilty of ever building it as a working semi. Depends on how much usefull parts are there. Omega had a couple of Chinese 8mm "resistance" Brens that were converted by the VN to 7.62x39mm, they were heavily handled, worn guns parts sets. Interesting, but obvious 3rd world issue. Primo price though, $5-600.00, if I recall.
A pic from my orphan gallery on GN.
Value as a dummy is in the eye of the potential purchaser. Maybe up to $600.00 now. Especially as VN collectables will continue to escalate..... I'd keep it from rusting & display proudly.
02-10-2006, 06:04 PM
well I talked to the guy how Im getting it from. I asked him about the reciever weld and he couldnt tell me. from the pic the only place it looks like it might have been cut is by back of mag well.... this could be a very old dewat. looks like a few tacks holding action open. he seems to think all the internals are there. and doesnt think barrel is plugged. sounded kinda nervous..... I'll keep you poste on what i get. if it came from a meuseum like he claims and isnt a recent made dummy I might have a semi in the future:thumbup1:
02-10-2006, 10:07 PM
Judging from the internet/gunbroker pics, there is no bolt or ejector in it. Since there is a block of steel welded in where the bolt would be, the piston post may have been ground off the bolt carrier, to allow "cocking" of the replica.
It appears to have been a 3 cut demill, as there is weld in the magwell. If the barrel is removeable, you probably will find welds in the barrel nut pocket.
02-10-2006, 10:26 PM
:dunno: think a semi is doable off of it?:dunno:
02-10-2006, 10:48 PM
It's certainly doable, depending on how straight the receiver is. Otherwise, it would require cutting up, rejigging & welding. Plus, these guns in that caliber are finicky to run properly. The tight clearances in the gas cylinder & piston are critical with a gas port so close to the muzzle. You could always go back to 7.92 x57mm, too.
There's a technical issue as well. If you remove the welded block, you have a machine gun receiver. If the bolt rails were blocked(really blocked w/inch long welds, not tacked in) as the receiver was welded up into a dummy, then original parts wouldn't fit & it couldn't be considered an illegal machine gun.
The brenlmg.com boards would be a good place for you to find more info on this project.
Oh, for a semi, you will want to "stretch the receiver between the rear sight & the receiver pin, to allow room for a striker if you duplicate Historic Arms' approved semi conversion.
02-10-2006, 11:06 PM
thanks for the info .. i take it youv'e done this a few times....ill probably be getting back to you later thanks again
02-15-2006, 10:15 AM
saw these live in the beijing military museum.
parts kits of this type are worth 400$, but making a semi is a trick. can use bren thinking to a degree, and mods to the FCG. ZB 30 is a bit easier, for reasons related to bolt and firing pin. parts can be had from omega.
send me a pm with a phone number if you would like to discuss in detail.
02-15-2006, 01:13 PM
have you done one before?
I got the paperwork from the guy he bought it off ebay about 2 yrs ago along with origonal owner name.
Ill update when the weapon arrives
02-16-2006, 04:02 PM
well i recievefd the dummy and its not bad .. down side is no carrier or bolt. Recoil set up in butt stock is gone but its a very nice reweld.
I think a semi might be in the future......anyone know where i can get parts? i say omega has some but not recoild spring group....will a brens work?
02-18-2006, 11:39 PM
My wife read the Chinese inscription, it is a Canadian made.