View Full Version : to stock up or to wait out, which have you chosen?
06-13-2008, 07:50 PM
I should stock up, but regretfully I have neither the money or motivation. *sigh* Well, less money than motivation.
06-13-2008, 07:55 PM
I'm stocking up on everything. Even if the sh*t doesn't hit the fan, it still makes sense.
1.) STOCKPILE AMMO - The Chinese have cornered the market on all metals for the foreseeable future so ammo prices will skyrocket and never come down.
2.) STOCKPILE FIREARMS - The ÜBERment will continue to try and take your guns away - outright if possible or through maneuvering to drive prices out of reach like BATFE harassment of FFL's, barrel bans, etc.
3.) STOCKPILE CANNED FOOD - This year's heavy rain and flooding across the bread-belt has devastated the few crops that did get planted. Food prices will be through the roof by year's end. A 35 cent can of corn today could be $2 + by winter.
After filling the basement with the 3 items above, hopefully my wife and I will still have time, space and money to learn how to brew our own BEER!! :cheers: :2guns:
Better stock up on water/propel/gaterade. Also powdered milk----and the list could go on.
Bottom line is this is a good ideal. A lot of extreme weather all over the world.
06-13-2008, 09:46 PM
+1 for homemade BEER!!!:)
06-14-2008, 12:25 AM
Nah I was just in Oz plenty of beer! Guns? oh the police have them... and when some bloke found out I was a sepo , well he offered me one!
Me? I buy 1000rds whenever I can, and am now buying powder!
06-14-2008, 10:15 AM
Can someone tell me the point (not being disrespectful) of stocking up on so much ammo and guns? If that son-of-a-bitch makes it in the White House, then he wants to take all the guns. And if he can manage to do that, what is a million rnds of ammo gonna get you? Im just wondering because Ive been reading a lot on o'bama (because he scares the crap out of me), and from what I took from a lot of the reading was he has no intention of letting assult weapons stay any where but the battle feild. Even though he has no idea what so ever what a battle feild is. Im not trying to be dis-respectful, a lot of you probly know a lot more about this than me, Im just going off of what Ive been reading. Thanks.
06-14-2008, 12:08 PM
I love this tread - Coastie look at your coming pay rise, 3% or 4% Prices are jumping 10% to 20% buy the end of the year if you figure gas in. I'm a retired Vet sucking hind tit with cola at the some 3 or 4% range, when in fact inflation is running 4 -6 % each year for the last several years. That do's not seem much but add to the fact,the devalued dollar is 10% or more and
Now you can see where Its realy hurting people. $100.00 only buys $86.00 worth of goods
and services since the begining of the year. What this means is your pay increase is really a pay cut of $14.00 per hundred. The old adage spend it or lose it applys here as the dollar continues to fall. To keep up store owners have to continue to rise prices or
go under. The problem is we can't keep up with the increased prices. If you have saved
for a rainy day, the money is worth less and less over a life time.:geezer:
06-14-2008, 03:56 PM
I get saveing food and supplies, bama isnt after that stuff. Why save guns and ammo? Thats the stuff he wants. Im still buying ammo every chance I get, but I cant help but think it may be pointless. The AWB mean you can no longer buy or sell assault type weapons, but what you already have is safe, right? It sounds like he wants to go a step further and take the remaining guns away from people too. I'm actually hopeing to be wrong about all this, cause I dont understand a lot about what I have been reading so I could be wrong. I hope Im wrong.
06-14-2008, 06:54 PM
The SH*T will hit the ole fan some kind of way pretty soon. The terrorists are serious enough to bust them guys out of prison against military guard force. Some of these guys are ready to get it on.
06-16-2008, 07:01 PM
100 HAVE NOTS for every ONE which has. This ratio could increase readily. And most possibly will.
Who, that oddball guy down the street with all of those solar panels on the roof? Yeah, he does not have any kids! Why don't he play Baseball and mindlessly worship sports? There is something wrong with that guy! I mean he cooks in the backyard on a pit using wood from the trees around here in this neighborhood. I mean, he does not sit in his driveway with the car engine running to show off how loud a boom box can be turned on. Like he does not give a S&*T when we do it in front of all the other neighbors!!! So what if gas is $4.00/gallon now. We look cool.
ALL of the HAVE NOTS will have spent their caches. They can't pay the bank nor can they any longer afford to eat. Running a 5 TON HOME AC unit will clean out what is left in the old accounts. Solar power, what the Hell is that?
A HAVE NOT will say,"WOW, I am HUNGRY". The store got looted out completely last week. But, we saved up nothing plus drank up all of our beer. Did we use all of the gas in the car to power the boom box while watching the BASEBALL game on TV? I think so? Hey man, there ain't no more water to drink either! Imagine that. It was not supposed to happen to us skinny in style Yuppies!! NO WAY MAN!!!
BASEBALL head says to his buddy,"that oddball across the street has some lights on and smoke is coming out of the backyard". I bet he has something to munch on and probabily beer too? Yeah, hey lets go over there and see what is up? OK, I guess we will talk to him if he might have something to give to us as sustainance? OK, let's go.
BASEBALL head or excuse me HAVE NOT shows up at the door with a gentle knock. The Rottweiler goes nuts! They ask,"Hey man, you got some spare food and drinks for us out here in the neighborhood"? An answer of NO is responded back to them.
A harder knock then commences. BANG BANG BANG! Hey man, you surely can afford just a little of what you got to help us out! Again, NO, please leave my property.
BASEBALL head walks back across the street and gets his good old .410 shotgun which his grandfather willed to him. #6 steel shot. Here man, lets load it up. We are starving along with everybody else who has not bathed in two weeks is doing. We will all have some beer to drink when I show that guy my grandpas shotgun. yeah, that will make him give some of his up. The next guy grabs his deer rifle. A gung ho yuppie finds his .38 pistol.
What happens in your yard? I will let you finish your own story............ :-(
Think about it!!! Seriously!!!!!
06-16-2008, 09:01 PM
.........good point. I put another order in yesterday at Wideners anyhow.
06-16-2008, 11:47 PM
It sure is GOOD to see people making some good sense!!!
06-16-2008, 11:58 PM
It is only a matter of time folks.
You and your good old neighbors that you think would back you up?
But, really think!
Where would it go from the end point I stipulated?
REALLY. think about it!
06-17-2008, 12:32 AM
ZOMG alert! STIP-you-l8ted!
I R scayred nowz!
Zombiez evar warez! Steelin my foodz and takin' my ammoz!
Eye sofa king wee Tood Ed!
06-17-2008, 06:38 AM
Research, Research, Research!!!!!!
06-17-2008, 02:15 PM
I am not so think as you drunk I am!
06-19-2008, 09:26 AM
Heres one for you, Rasmussen pole on Nationliztion of all U.S. Oil companies 51% yes 49% no. Is Obma like Chavez, under the double speak Yes. Does it stop here or go on into other
industries ( Food - Med's Cars ) Is this going to be our next Flag:geezer:
I hope you undecideds like the RED - WHITE - BLUE:troops:
06-19-2008, 09:52 PM
have purchased 3 guns in last 2 months and buy a box of ammo every chance I get a little extra cash
06-20-2008, 07:08 PM
I'm set I think.....
06-26-2008, 04:32 PM
I am thankfull NOT to have any small children!! It will be the toughest for them and elderly.
Pets, they can eat scraps and drink rain water as a good part of their intake needs.
The hardest part for us here in Texas will be the HEAT if SHTF soon? HOT BEER is not much fun! But, it beats nothing.
THE HARDEST PART
1.) Dealing with neighbors who did not prepare.
2.) Dealing with LOOTERS stupid and or brave enough to give it a try.
3.) Dealing with Police and or military that are loosing their ass in the plight.
4.) If your position gets discovered by whatever intruders are invading, how would you handle either retreat or surrender? Or, if neither of these are an option, the FINISH!?!?
If your wife looks like anything, fighting it to an end is most likely the best way out of it. At least take a few more of them with you!
06-26-2008, 06:09 PM
Yes, but then there is one alternative possibility- the looters (your neighbors) go out and hit all the stores, etc. and let's say they DO clean out the shelves. Don't forget that then, THEY are ALSO going to become "targets" as well. All of a sudden, YOUR "extras" in ammo (and MAYBE some smaller guns) may become a VALUABLE trading commodity. Especially in smaller towns, where some folks may have a .22 or a shotgun, but their idea of ammo needs is maybe 1 box per YEAR for hunting season- you MAY be able to work out some degree of trade; some of their "loot" (like foodstuffs, medicine, etc.) for "x" amount of .22 or 12 gauge shells. If they see you as a resource that they can trade with and live, then they may not be so inclined to want to die (and leave their wife and kids unprotected) trying to TAKE everything from you- especially when they see the pile of bodies on the lawn, or the decapitated heads on the mailbox posts up and down your street with the big smiley face and "SEND MORE LOOTERS" sign written in blood hanging around the first one. Vlad Dracul had the right idea; let their fear be your best friend. But then, have JUST enough "extra" to give them motivation to want them to keep YOU on their "side" -and enough reason to not want to do something stupid.
Be the first kid on your block to become its very own "Lord of War"... :lildevil: And make use of that subserviant conditioning that your government has spent billions of dollars and decades of educational brainwashing to instill in the sheeple, who WILL be looking for SOMEONE to "lead them". Hell, maybe you might even be able to do some good for your own community in the process?
TSHF would be bad, granted, but it might also lead to a better place to live once the herd gets culled of its parasites. It all depends on WHO steps up and HOW they choose to offer help, if any. People have been conditioned from birth to seek order and authority; that predates this country. It is a part of human nature, of the natural order of things. It is how the very concept of Kings and countries formed in the first place. Society as WE know it; "civilization"- THAT is the illusion that we accept, so long as the lights and computer are on, and the banks and grocery stores are open. Take away those things, and watch people revert back to the same instinctual urges that they have had for 10,000 years prior to the industrial revolution.
Those who beat their swords into plowshares, shall eventually use them to plow the fields of those who do not. And to that old saying, I would add that those who can defend a home may keep it, but those who can defend their neighbors' homes as well will have a kingdom.
06-26-2008, 06:32 PM
The BATTLE FIELD will be right here if the GOOBERMENT tries a thing like taking away our 2nd admin rights.
Like your own motto says,"A fair fight would SUCK"!
The GOOBERMENT does not want you to even try and fight when they get to a point of martial law type control. Or, a dictatorship.
06-26-2008, 06:43 PM
The posts got a bit mixed up.
I should have quoted this response to the poster.
06-26-2008, 06:57 PM
You don't know Neighbors in the big city.
Lots of people CLOSE together.
I get on this place to breath and vent my opinions maybe too far sometimes. After listening to others like you all here that are like me, it is a release to RELEASE what I see as what is coming.
However, it is GREAT to see a post such as yours,(Pvt. Joker)! It is real good to see that ones out there can think and reason out a better outcome.
Though, after seeing the predatory nature of NEIGHBORS who have done just about everything they could possibly do to you and get away with it.
Good to see some COOL heads in hear.
07-17-2008, 05:38 PM
I don't know why more folks have not voted in this poll yet?!?!?!
Nobody is going to know how you vote.
Give it a whirl.
07-17-2008, 06:09 PM
It's past June, into July, almost August. Wolf is running $180/1000.
Still a lot more than I used to pay, but nowhere near the $300/1000 in June predicted early in this thread.
Nothing wrong in building a self-sufficient cushion but the end's not here yet. No runs on food, ammo's plentiful (if a bit expensive).
And that $16 brick of .22 at wallyworld? Goes bang each and every time in my 10/22, the lever Henry and my Cugir. No problem with primers, accuracy is fine for the rabbits and gophers. The overall best loads for SHTF, IMHO, are 12 gauge loads of various types and a few thousand .22.