View Full Version : AK 7.62x25mm improved.
04-06-2010, 10:58 AM
The new aluminum magazine well helps allot.
04-06-2010, 11:28 AM
That looks slick!
04-06-2010, 11:40 AM
I think I'm in lust. nice mag well.
04-06-2010, 11:54 AM
Looks VERY nice - the newest Vitayaz pics (9mm) indicate they use molded plastic for theirs... see the pics below.
My sheet metal magwell isn't all cleaned up and purty, but it won't look that good even when it is :) Now I'm embarrased to look at mine - maybe I'll have to redo it now lol
QUESTION - gas or blowback? Factory Vitayaz is blowback, but that looks gas which is why I ask.
04-06-2010, 04:05 PM
OH that's sweet.
What mag, PPS43?
04-06-2010, 06:52 PM
Great looking build, great caliber choice, and AWESOME magwell. Thank you for the drool pics!
04-06-2010, 08:45 PM
A very fine piece!
Thanks for sharing.
04-06-2010, 10:32 PM
Looking good !!!!
Have you tested function as yet ??
04-07-2010, 09:50 AM
It is blowback and the magazine is a PPS43 magazine.
I have function tested it . YouTube - erieordnancejim's Channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/erieordnancejim)
04-07-2010, 10:08 AM
Very nice! Are you planning to market these? One thing that you may want to consider is the flare on the bottom of the magwell. I think it could be added to the existing design with little effort because it would be as wide as the top area that covers the magwell; you would just not take that off of the bottom and move the logo up a little bit. However I think it would be fine as-is!
OK, upon a closer inspection, I presume that's your purpose-built 7.62x25 bolt as well :)
Erie Ordnance Depot, Serving the Black Swamp (http://erieordnancedepot.com/EOD.asp?s=upr&c=akp)
04-07-2010, 04:48 PM
I am offering these as conversions or as complete custom builds.
Generation two may have some type of flare but since these are CNC cut they had to be done this way for now. I was more concerned with function than appearance on this batch.
04-07-2010, 08:02 PM
Nice mag well, love it and want one!!!
Budda Budda Jam
04-07-2010, 09:46 PM
Me too. Let us all know what you decide to do in the future.
04-08-2010, 12:02 PM
Very nice!!!! How much are the conversion kits etc.......... ? Thanks
04-08-2010, 12:45 PM
04-09-2010, 12:30 AM
Currently I am doing conversions using these magazine wells and My bolt assemblies and barrels. I am charging $500 to convert an existing AK to 7.62x25mm.
To do a complete build from scratch with me supplying everything but the parts kit. $900
04-09-2010, 08:30 PM
Have you tried a 9mm in that bolt yet to see how it fits? I know they are really close to a x25 round but just wanted to ask.
04-10-2010, 03:30 AM
SHHHHHHH I was saving that for phase 2 Yeah the same bolt.
I am doing the same thing in reverse for AR15s I am making blowback barrels and using 9mm bolts I have a magazine block that has a fixed ejector like the colt 9mm conversion. But all in 7.62x25mm
The problem I have found with the AK is that it really looks stupid with a straight stick mag. HK mp5 magazines are too wide. I need something like an UZI magazine with some curve to it. Or a way to adapt a calico magazine.
04-10-2010, 08:24 AM
How well would 9mm feed through the PPS magazines?
04-10-2010, 10:44 AM
after a quick hand test seems fine. Now I am going to have to do a live test.
04-10-2010, 11:07 AM
Yeah hand-testing on my PPSH-41 mags they do seem to hand-feed fine. That would certainly make for an easier conversion if the bullets don't tilt in the magazine. Looking at the follower, the probably won't tilt, but you never can tell.
Personally I don't think straight mags look that bad. They can afford to be angled forward up to about 6 degrees, depending on the design of the feed lips.
04-10-2010, 11:16 AM
I have found that 9x19mm ammo feeds best from a 7.62x25 mag when positioned at the back edge of the mag.
The single-position feed commie mags can be adapted to .45 ACP (so can Sten mags) using a 3/8 inch radius feed lip opening (same-same M-3 Greasegun mag). The Sten mags also require removal of the back edge spacer rib or rather the top 2/3 of it anyway to handle the .45 ACP.
04-10-2010, 12:17 PM
LOL I ask that because I got almost everything for a 9mm build and I'm still trying to decide of I want to mod the AK bolt or just get one of yours :D
Or a way to adapt a calico magazine.
This is something we've talked about before, I don't think anyone made any real progress yet but I still think it can be done. Here's a link that was started with some pics of the mag if you don't have one yet.
04-10-2010, 11:50 PM
Thanks I have lurked there and would like to get my hands on one but the cost is steep.
I think that it could be done with a Calico magazine after some creative alterations.
04-11-2010, 12:57 AM
I think that it could be done with a Calico magazine after some creative alterations. Other then a way to mount it, I still think a new end could be made with a short & backward facing feed tower and mag catch lug to replace the stock end would work.