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07-08-2013, 11:20 AM
the rules for the scope deals
#1 they got to be a good scope of reasonably good quality.
#2 they got be be a good % off list price --at least 30% but 50% is better!
# 3 the scope has to be adaptable to the ar-15 -- nothing off a m1 tank or a U-boat!
$135 for a vortex diamondback--- very good glass , not as good as the $175 vortex vipers from a year or so ago--but still a very nice scope for $
07-08-2013, 11:23 AM
pentax 2-7x 32 $75 shipped. now the big ?-mark is are these any good? might make a decent scope . i am tempted to try one for a knock-about.
07-09-2013, 10:56 AM
hers is another super deal-- only thing is it is a big 3-9x supposed to be the same as a grand slam for $99! tough to pass on for $99!--
a 3-9 scope is a bit big for an ar though-- some of the guys running long range from the bench should check out natchez sale on weavers many are 1/3dr of list price!
07-09-2013, 11:44 AM
I have a Pentax 3-9x40 Gameseeker I picked up cheap at SG a few years ago, plan to mount on a bolt gun one of these days. Glass is nice and bright and clear. They call the reticle Precision Plex (PP). Probably worth a try at that price.
Popped a Barska 1.75x4.5 30mm on my new AR cause I had it laying around for a few years, impulse buy. Don't know if it will hold up to long term use, and would be concerned about betting my life on it, but so far it works great. Got it on a quick detach rail and it has held zero after removing and returning. Will see how long it lasts, but expect to upgrade. Interesting dale you have posted so far.
07-09-2013, 03:03 PM
from what little i have been able to garner the pentax scopes were made by burris for a while then were shifted to china.
on the info-net everybody seems to hate barska.
i don't know if their all that bad --i am tempted to buy one of their refurb 1-4x 20mm scopes on amazon for $50, mainly cause it will fit the mount i got and be small enough for the old m-16 slab-side upper to not look weird.
then again i might just buy a 30mm mount and put a optisan mamba on it--LOL--
07-09-2013, 03:35 PM
I know that about Barska, didn't at the time I bought in impulse. Not expecting much... But you never know, even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally...
07-09-2013, 05:04 PM
SWFA's sample list has a lot of deals --on everything from "junk" scopes to high-high dollar units. and they do have things like leupold vxII for $99-$150 from time to time.
lots of burris and even borderline exotics like the minox ZA5s--
i also like their optisan mamba 1-4x ar-15 scope so far-- it is a very clear scope for $149 with a decent mount-- hell the mount alone is worth $50
LOL i was on SWFAs sample list the other day and they had a generic BSA 3-9x 40mm scope for $0.01!
yea there are lots of scopes out there. some great and some so-so. the irony is sometimes you get a decent one for really cheap --and sometimes you don't--
i recently got a 1-6x 30mm from amazon for $49 shipped-- it ain't as bad as it sounds it is reasonably clear from 1-3x --then it gets fuzzy, then it clears up @ 6x
it can't touch the mamba or the PA though.
07-11-2013, 11:23 AM
camera land often has demos at big bucks off. cameralandny has a lot of exotic scopes german/euro made stuff on their demo lists as well as vortex and leupold and what not.
if it wern't for the e-bomba economy i would probably order a couple of their minox samples -- check their 'deal of the day' board too for additional price cuts--
07-13-2013, 07:40 PM
this 1-6x i got from amazon is having problems--LOL! though it glass ain't so bad.
the machinery inside is CRAP-- the elevation went "kaput" trying to bore sight the scope on the bench. utter FAIL and it hasn't even fired ONE ROUND!--LOL!
AVOID! DANGER , DANGER! WILL ROBINSON!
07-13-2013, 08:02 PM
i have heard good things about the weaver K series the 6x-38 might be the ticket for those of us who wanted a lupupie FX but didn't feel $300+ was such a deal--
07-16-2013, 10:03 AM
some of the camera places , amazon and SWFA has the old style burris full field 2s in 2-7x 35mm for $149.
i have heard mixed reviews about the newer burris scopes since they shifted their production to the PIs. i have one of their older 3-9x 40s that was made in the USA it is a good scope.
a redfield revolution 2-7x should be a good pick as well provided you can find one at a "deal" price. i haven't found one yet for less than MSRP.
07-16-2013, 10:20 AM
low $$ scopes that are worth a look that i haven't had the chance to check out--for around $100
pentax game seeker II 2-7x 35mm made in china --some say these are the same as low priced bushnell 2-7x ? they have been found for as low as $75 shipped.
centerpoint 2-7x these are obviously china made for box stores. some say their pretty good. i haven't seen one myself.
muller 2-7x --these are very nice for the $$ only thing is their set @ 50m. normally a high powered rifle scope is set to 100m--
vortex crossfire 2 2-7x35 ---these could be good scopes. they are made in china so the get no respect and are over shadowed by the diamondbacks and the vipers--that can sometimes be bought for only a few $$ more. might be worth a shot if you get a really good price on one.
the minox 3-9x 40 ZV3 -- i saw one of these the other day for $119! i damn near bought it till i found out it was made in CHINA. i know that this model has had some problems with the turrets --but that is supposedly fixable. they may be good scopes --a 3-9x 40 is a little big for an ar-15 for the field, many use um anyway.
07-21-2013, 01:08 PM
barska does have one or two scopes worth a look at least.
on of them you don't see or hear much about is a 6x42 euro 30mm scope with the 4a style sight picture. one of the neat things about it is it is a 30mm tube. most of the offset mounts are 30mms and are cheaper than the 25mm types. on my 25mm scope i had to buy inserts and they were like $18 for four pieces of plastic--LOL
being a fixed power it should hold up as long as the turrets last--provided the glass is decent it could be a good buy. it is on the heavy side compared to the weaver k6 & k4s. and the retail price is exactly one half what the weavers go for -- $ 65 shipped for the barska and the weavers generally are selling for $140ish.
07-21-2013, 01:36 PM
primary arms 1-4x24 vs optisan mamba
so far their stacking up pretty close.
the mamba has some what better glass and is a hair brighter. the mamba also has better illumination and can double as a red-dot type of sight. the mambas zoom ring also takes less travel. i tend to like the mamba better overall. the mamba has a lifetime warranty backed from SWFA. the PA only has one year.
the mamba is etched glass and the PA is wire i think--
the primary arms 1-4x does seem to have better turrets that have a solid clicks you can feel and hear. the optisan mamba has very fine clicks you can't feel but you can hear , sort of like a watch like deal with the optisan. to me the PA was more easy to zero in. the 4a sight style is better for some things compared to the ranging re-set to zero on the floating winged bubble of the mamba is less complicated.
both seem to hold there settings well. the outer-space uber hi-tek mall-ninja recticle on the mamba seems out of place on the retro colt nam era 605 --so it is going to get the PA . the classic 4a euro seems to fit in the the early 60s of the old colt a bit better.
the big draw back to any of these types of scopes is weight and size. they are as big as a 2-7x 35 and a bit more weight. the weigh in around 17 oz each not counting the mount.
so the add a bit more than a pound to your ar-15.
on a m4 style they don't seem to0 heavy but on a 16 inch h-bar you can sure tell that extra lb is there.
a lightweight scope like a k6/k4 that comes in at 10 oz might be a better fit for some. you can save an easy 1/2 lb if you shop for a light scope.
the 2-7x types or even 1.5-8x scopes with a optic back up sight mounted @ 45 degrees might be the ideal set up for the light weight full sized DRM rifle -- i'm currently working one up.
the 1-4x24s seem near perfect except for the weight on some of the H-bar 14.5s and 16" carbines.
there are some other scopes i haven't mentioned mainly cause i haven't used them myself but their worth a mention.
there is the 1.5-4x 20mm leupold scopes like the "hog-plex" that is sold over at midway for $229 these are lighter and smaller than the 1-4 24x 30mm scopes i have been using. their not illuminated but have good clear glass that is also very light weight and a bit more compact. so if weight is a huge factor and you can live with out a lighted up scope--they are worth a look as well.
same thing finding a reasonably useful lightweight reflex style optic for back up. the one ounce ones go for $200 the 4 oz ones $40--LOL!
i think i can lug that extra 3oz for $160 so it is all a trade off of some sort.