http://www.gunco.net/forums Online Firearms Discussion Community and Forums en Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:27:17 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.gunco.net/forums/blackteal/misc/rss.jpg http://www.gunco.net/forums http://www.gunco.net/forums/f113/coonan-fals-51380/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:20:55 GMT I heard Dan Coonan is back with type III FALs. I found them at Coonan - Welcome to Coonan! (http://www.coonaninc.com). I heard Dan Coonan is back with type III FALs. I found them at Coonan - Welcome to Coonan!. ]]> General Discussion Lobby MarketingMan http://www.gunco.net/forums/f113/coonan-fals-51380/ http://www.gunco.net/forums/f273/indiana-brookville-bans-firearms-town-owned-property-51379/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:00:16 GMT The Brookville Town Council recently passed an ordinance banning firearms on all property owned or leased by the town. Your NRA contacted the town council and was referred instead to the town attorney, Michael Wilhelm. Mr. Wilhelm informed NRA that the ordinance can be repealed or revoked if town residents contact the Council and request a meeting to discuss the issue. More... (http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=5216) The Brookville Town Council recently passed an ordinance banning firearms on all property owned or leased by the town. Your NRA contacted the town council and was referred instead to the town attorney, Michael Wilhelm. Mr. Wilhelm informed NRA that the ordinance can be repealed or revoked if town residents contact the Council and request a meeting to discuss the issue.

More... ]]> NRA Feeds Gunco http://www.gunco.net/forums/f273/indiana-brookville-bans-firearms-town-owned-property-51379/ http://www.gunco.net/forums/f113/wanted-windows-7-firearms-weapons-themes-51377/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:12:01 GMT Has anyone seem any good Windows 7/Vista themes with firearms or military vehicles/weapons? Anything, any brand or weapon type, even tanks? It would be nice to have a mortar sound when I get a new email... it will make me duck! LOL Just want something cool for my computer. :kewlpics: It would be nice to have one for AK family... Has anyone seem any good Windows 7/Vista themes with firearms or military vehicles/weapons? Anything, any brand or weapon type, even tanks? It would be nice to have a mortar sound when I get a new email... it will make me duck! LOL
Just want something cool for my computer. :kewlpics:

It would be nice to have one for AK family... ]]> General Discussion Lobby shoot-n-scoot http://www.gunco.net/forums/f113/wanted-windows-7-firearms-weapons-themes-51377/ http://www.gunco.net/forums/f113/remingtons-known-defective-trigger-system-approx-4-mill-51376/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:09:46 GMT APPROXIMATELY FOUR MILLION DEFECTIVELY DESIGNED REMINGTON TRIGGERS ARE STILL BEING TRUSTED AND USED BY THE UNSUSPECTING AMERICAN SPORTSMAN.

Defective Remington 700 Bolt-Action Rifle - Dallas, Texas Lawyers – Drinnon Law Firm

Defective Remington 700 Bolt-Action Rifle

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Remington’s Defective Trigger System
A Historical Summary

Extensive Claims and Litigation History

1.Remington has been aware that its bolt-action rifles will sometimes fire absent a trigger pull.

2.To date, Remington has received thousands of customer complaints of unintended discharge for the Model 700 and 710 alone. Over 100 injured individuals have sued Remington over the same defective design. Remington and its insurers have paid to settle most of the claims rather than admit the defect and pay the cost of a recall and refit thereby leaving millions of persons at risk of their lives and those of their family and friends. click on here to review Remington memo January 2, 1979 wherein Remington admits to its own defect and recognizes the danger to its customers)


3.Ignoring thousands of customer complaints, Remington refused to recall its rifles, install a new trigger, or warn its customers of the potential danger. (click on here to review Remington memo dated January 2, 1979 wherein Remington admits to its own defect and recognizes the danger to its customers)


4.Instead, Remington designed the new 710 (introduced in 2001) using the very same defective M700 fire control.


5.Not surprisingly, Remington has already received numerous complaints from its customers of unintended discharge, mirroring the complaint history of the 700.


The Defect

1.Remington’s trigger mechanism uses an internal component called a “connector” – a design component not used by any other rifle manufacturer. The connector floats on top of the trigger body inside of the gun, but is not physically bound to the trigger in any way other than tension from a spring. When the trigger is pulled, the connecter is pushed forward by the trigger, allowing the sear to fall and fire the rifle.


2.The proper position of the connector under the sear is an overlap of only 25/1000ths of an inch, but because the connector is not bound to the trigger, the connector separates from the trigger body when the rifle is fired and creates a gap between the two parts.


3.Any dirt, debris or manufacturing scrap can then become lodged in the space created between the connector and the trigger, preventing the connector from returning to its original position.


4.Remington’s defective fire control could have been redesigned to eliminate the harm or danger very inexpensively. There is no valid engineering reason why the successfully utilized connectorless designs could not have been used by Remington in its Model 700 and 710.


5.In fact, Remington has recently done just that for the Model 700 with a newly designed trigger, the X-Mark Pro. That design, which eliminates the connector, was completed in 2002. However, Remington chose to continue with its prior unsafe design for financial reasons, never warning the public. Even today, Remington installs the new fire control into some but not all of its bolt-action rifles, leaving many users at risk with the old and defective design.

Jury Verdicts and Appellate Court Opinions of Remington’s Defective Fire Control

1.In Lewy v. Remington, 836 F.2d 1104, 1106-07 (8th Cir. 1988); the Eighth Circuit upheld a finding of punitive damages against Remington in 1985.


2.In Campbell v. Remington Arms Co., 1992 WL 54928 (9th Cir. 1992)(unpublished opinion); affirmed a jury verdict of $724,000 based on a fire on bolt closure, finding no error.


3.Later in 1992, the Texas Supreme Court, in Chapa v. Garcia, specifically describes Remington’s fire control as “defective.”


4.In 1994, a Texas jury rendered a verdict in Collins v. Remington after Glenn Collins lost this foot to a Model 700 accidental discharge. The jury found that the fire control was defective and awarded a $15 million in exemplary damages. The total verdict was in excess of $17 million. (click on here to review Business Week article entitled “Remington Faces A Misfiring Squad”)


5.The verdicts stopped with the Collins verdict. After that, Remington settled all claims. Instead of recalling or replacing the defective fire control, Remington has quietly paid almost $20 million to settle claims out of court, finally replacing the fire control only in 2007.
Remington’s Redesign Efforts After the $17 million Collins Verdict

1.After Collins, Remington again contemplated a recall and again recognized the need to redesign its fire control. Internal documents detail Remington’s extensive knowledge of the problem. However, until it finally introduced a new fire control in 2007 (a design that eliminates the connector), Remington consistently chose to forego a safer design.
Timeline of Redesign Efforts

1.In 1995, Remington openly acknowledges the need to “fix” the fire control and “eliminate” ‘Fire on Safety Release’ malfunction.”


2.In 1997, when Remington embarked on the design of the Model 710, documents reflect Remington’s desire not to include the M700 “Walker” –based fire control in the M710.


3.Remington designers then developed several connectorless fire controls for the M710. Remington documents clearly show that the new designs were favored (“The new concept barrel and fire control analysis was complete with excellent results.”)


4.However, the designs met their downfall during Remington’s economic analysis. Project spending was put on hold in May 1998 “until economics and project is approved.” That approval never came. In August 1998, the safer designs were abandoned due to an “estimated cost increase.”


5.Remington instead decided to pull the unsafe Model 700 fire control off the shelf and use it in the new Model 710 to “eliminate development cost and time.”


6.As Remington began its internal testing of the new Model 710 (with the old Model 700 fire control installed), Remington, knowing the history of the design, warned its internal testers of the possibility of inadvertent discharge;
For each of the four rounds in the magazine the tester will close the bolt “smartly” –(i.e. as quickly as practical” –and be prepared for the rifle to inadvertently follow down or fire.

No such warning is provided to customers that purchase the Model 700 or 710, nor was such a warning given to the Barber parents, whose son died as the result of the trigger defect. (click on here to review excerpts from – CBS News 2001)

1.In 2000, a Model 710 rifle fired on bolt closure during Remington’s testing. Remington’s own expert witness in litigation admits that Remington “could not nail down” the reason for the discharge without a trigger pull.


2.In preparation for the introduction of the M710 to market, Remington Consumer Team Meeting minutes from 2001 reveal that Remington planned for personal injuries of its customers as a result of inadvertent discharges from Model 710 rifles:
Safety/Injury Calls and the Model 710 – Ken – If a consumer calls with a safety concern, (i.e. FSR, fires when closed, personal injury or property damage, etc), these calls AND firearms go to Dennis or Fred

1.Predictably, Remington began receiving reports of injury and accidental discharge from the Model 710 almost identical to the thousands of complaints it had received from the Model 700 soon after its release.

APPROXIMATELY FOUR MILLION DEFECTIVELY DESIGNED REMINGTON TRIGGERS ARE STILL BEING TRUSTED AND USED BY THE UNSUSPECTING AMERICAN SPORTSMAN.
__________________ ]]> General Discussion Lobby Double Ott http://www.gunco.net/forums/f113/remingtons-known-defective-trigger-system-approx-4-mill-51376/ http://www.gunco.net/forums/f3/need-help-change-out-ak-47c-fore-grip-51375/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:08:10 GMT I have an AK-47C from I.O. Inc. The first one i bought had issues. I.O. really stood behind their product; I received a new rifle and numerous accessories for my trouble.

The rifle that I bought had a Galil fore grip on it which I liked. The replacement rifle had an I.O. bottom rail fore grip on it which I really didn't care for. I contacted I.O. and they sent me a free Galil fore grip.

To change them out, I know that you first have to raise the lever on top of the rifle and remove the gas tube assembly. Then you have to raise the bottom locking lever on the inside of the fore grip which allows you to slide the keeper plate forward allowing you to remove the bottom half of the fore grip.

My problem is with the top part of the fore grip which sits on top of the gas tube assembly. It doesn't just lift off and I really don't want to 'force' it off and break it as I may want to return to this type of fore grip in the future.

Any ideas and/or solutions to my problem will be greatly appreciated. How do I remove the part in question??? ]]> AK-47 Discussion Forum NightRider http://www.gunco.net/forums/f3/need-help-change-out-ak-47c-fore-grip-51375/ http://www.gunco.net/forums/f273/pennsylvania-house-judiciary-committee-hears-testimony-acastle-doctrinea-self-defe-51374/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:00:17 GMT More... (http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=5214) More... ]]> NRA Feeds Gunco http://www.gunco.net/forums/f273/pennsylvania-house-judiciary-committee-hears-testimony-acastle-doctrinea-self-defe-51374/ http://www.gunco.net/forums/f273/board-supervisors-sussex-county-virginia-table-proposed-attack-shooting-ran-51373/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:00:17 GMT More... (http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=5215) More... ]]> NRA Feeds Gunco http://www.gunco.net/forums/f273/board-supervisors-sussex-county-virginia-table-proposed-attack-shooting-ran-51373/ http://www.gunco.net/forums/f273/canada-polls-show-gun-registry-viewed-ineffective-51372/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:10:59 GMT Although 80 per cent of Canadians consider gun violence a serious problem, only 11 per cent think the $1 billion gun registry has been effective at preventing crime, according to a new poll.The Angus Reid survey also found that just over half of Canadians are in favour of scrapping the registry. More... (http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/InTheNews.aspx?ID=13126) Although 80 per cent of Canadians consider gun violence a serious problem, only 11 per cent think the $1 billion gun registry has been effective at preventing crime, according to a new poll.The Angus Reid survey also found that just over half of Canadians are in favour of scrapping the registry.

More... ]]> NRA Feeds Gunco http://www.gunco.net/forums/f273/canada-polls-show-gun-registry-viewed-ineffective-51372/ http://www.gunco.net/forums/f273/florida-more-exercising-right-carry-51371/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:10:59 GMT Whether it's a fear of increased gun control or a perceived rise in crime, the numbers show more people than ever are buying guns and getting permits to carry them.Florida approved more than 90,000 permits to carry a weapon last year and already sent out 75,000 applications this year.

More... ]]> NRA Feeds Gunco http://www.gunco.net/forums/f273/florida-more-exercising-right-carry-51371/ http://www.gunco.net/forums/f273/pennsylvania-lawmakers-hear-arguments-self-defense-bill-51370/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:10:59 GMT The piece of legislation eliminates the "duty to retreat" if you are confronted by an attacker. It also expands the so called "castle doctrine." That's a piece of common law that states your home is your castle and can be defended with deadly force."The bill restores the human right to self defense, which has been eroded away by our criminal judicial system," John Hohenwarter with the National Rifle Association said.

More... ]]> NRA Feeds Gunco http://www.gunco.net/forums/f273/pennsylvania-lawmakers-hear-arguments-self-defense-bill-51370/ http://www.gunco.net/forums/f273/anti-pirate-policy-works-51369/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:10:59 GMT Merchant ships need guns to fight pirates. Seven months ago, Somali pirates attacked the Maersk Alabama and held its captain hostage. Pirates attacked the Maersk Alabama again this week but were repulsed because the Maersk Shipping Line put armed guards on its ships. More... (http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/InTheNews.aspx?ID=13129) Merchant ships need guns to fight pirates. Seven months ago, Somali pirates attacked the Maersk Alabama and held its captain hostage. Pirates attacked the Maersk Alabama again this week but were repulsed because the Maersk Shipping Line put armed guards on its ships.

More... ]]> NRA Feeds Gunco http://www.gunco.net/forums/f273/anti-pirate-policy-works-51369/ http://www.gunco.net/forums/f273/will-gun-control-case-prompt-constitutional-reawakening-51368/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:10:59 GMT The case is McDonald v. City of Chicago, for which the court granted cert on Sept. 30. The petitioners in the case, a group challenging a gun control ordinance in Chicago, filed their brief with the court earlier this week. Were the court to adopt their position -- something well within the realm of possibility -- we could be looking at a significant shift in the way the justices view the Constitution and individual rights. More... (http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/InTheNews.aspx?ID=13130) The case is McDonald v. City of Chicago, for which the court granted cert on Sept. 30. The petitioners in the case, a group challenging a gun control ordinance in Chicago, filed their brief with the court earlier this week. Were the court to adopt their position -- something well within the realm of possibility -- we could be looking at a significant shift in the way the justices view the Constitution and individual rights.

More... ]]> NRA Feeds Gunco http://www.gunco.net/forums/f273/will-gun-control-case-prompt-constitutional-reawakening-51368/ http://www.gunco.net/forums/f113/550lb-man-dies-recliner-51367/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:21:59 GMT 800 Pound South Carolina Man Dies After Getting Stuck in Recliner for 8 Months[/b]

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COLUMBIA, S.C. — When an ambulance brought Daniel Webb home from the hospital after he hurt his knee in March, paramedics warned the then 550-pound man he probably wouldn't be able to get up from his recliner if they put him there, his wife said.
Webb told them to leave him there anyway. He would sit in that recliner, slowly dying, for the next eight months. Finally, paramedics were called back to his Greenwood home on Wednesday because he was in a lot of pain.
Webb's body was physically stuck to the power recliner and firefighters had to cut him from the chair to take him to the hospital. He died a few hours later, his body covered with sores and a "very bad odor," according to a police report.
Webb, 33, didn't ask for help for all those months, because he was ashamed and didn't have health insurance, said his wife, Ada. He slept and used the bathroom in his chair and she cleaned it every day. The former preacher would post sermons online from the chair, and it wasn't long before he decided he was ready to go home to the Lord, she said.
"After he sat there in that one spot for a week, he was embarrassed. It was like he already knew what was going to happen," Ada Webb said.

Webb's mother was the one who placed the final call to paramedics. Not only did crews have to cut apart the chair, but they had to cut a hole in the wall of the couple's mobile home about 70 miles west of Columbia to get him out. A police report said he weighed about 800 pounds, but his wife said he was closer to 500 pounds.
The hospital told Daniel Webb's wife he died from a heart attack, she said. The coroner's office isn't investigating the death and referred all questions to Greenwood County deputies, who sent their report, but didn't respond to a phone message.
Webb died on the couple's second anniversary. They met four years ago on MySpace, and Ada Webb said she didn't see a man who weighed more than 500 pounds, but instead saw a guy who loved the Lord and had a big heart.
"I had the worst anniversary yesterday I ever had, but I know he had the best one he ever had because he's with Jesus now," she said.
Daniel Webb drove school buses for nearly 15 years, until his weight made it impossible. His health kept getting worse, and Ada Webb said she begged hospital officials to keep him after doctors treated his knee injury in March. But the couple had no way to pay and were sent home.
For his first few weeks home, Daniel Webb was open to the idea of seeing someone. Getting to them was the problem.
"Everybody kept telling us, if you get here, we'll help you. We didn't have no way of getting him up, and nobody was willing to come help us," Ada Webb said. "He just kind of said, 'it's in God's hands' at that point."
Daniel Webb spent the rest of his days playing with his four dogs and talking about religion to other people on the Internet.
"I did all I could for him. He loved me with a passion," his wife said. "The only reason he held on to life here was for his family because he wanted to go home and be with the Lord."

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]]> General Discussion Lobby 4thIDvet http://www.gunco.net/forums/f113/550lb-man-dies-recliner-51367/ http://www.gunco.net/forums/f259/looking-870-wingmaster-wood-stock-set-51366/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:29:21 GMT I am looking for a set of Remington 870 wingmaster wood, both forend and buttstock, with the pressed checkering and fleur de lis pattern, like the stock on this shotgun:

AA Auction 9339632 (Ended 09/28/2009, 12:37:56 PST) 870 Wingmaster 16GA Pump Shotgun

It is for a Christmas gift for my mom, Its going to get an inch or so taken off of the stock and get a recoil pad. I am trying to replicate the gun she learned to shoot on. My grandfather gave it to me when I was 13 and it was my first shotgun. She wants it, and I don't want to give it up. What she doesn't know is that I traded into a very similar gun, but the stock is different.

If anybody went tacticool, and has a spare stock set of this type sitting around, let me know. Any help here would be great. I am posting this on a few forums, as I would like to make this happen in time to finish the project and get it under the tree. ]]> Classifieds Fritz http://www.gunco.net/forums/f259/looking-870-wingmaster-wood-stock-set-51366/ http://www.gunco.net/forums/f189/2xtm-mag-wells-suomi-falfiles-51365/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:00:12 GMT Guy has 5 to sell and for the great price of $45.

The FAL Files Forums - FS 2XTM mag wells for Suomi Drum

Pat ]]> Classifieds Discussion Forum patjsimpson http://www.gunco.net/forums/f189/2xtm-mag-wells-suomi-falfiles-51365/