Glock 36 Malfunction!!!!

[upgrayedd]

So, I have only put about 12 shots through my pistol thus far and on shot number 8, the casing became lodged halfway between the barrel and the extractor, forcing the breach to remain open while the empty casing hung up the breach(not a smokestack).
I had to remove the mag, which released the tension from under the jammed shell, then I was able to manually cycle the upper and clear the jam.
I was firing the remington FMJ loads 230gr.
Upon closer inspection of the casing, the primer specifically, I noticed the pin strike, dead center, but ALSO
a "line" emanating from the center of the pic strike, all the way to the edge of the primer charge?? Kinda like the firing pin dragged?

Any thoughts?

I know, I know, I need to shoot it some more

[4thIDvet]

[quote=upgrayedd;504740]So, I have only put about 12 shots through my pistol thus far and on shot number 8, the casing became lodged halfway between the barrel and the extractor, forcing the breach to remain open while the empty casing hung up the breach(not a smokestack).
I had to remove the mag, which released the tension from under the jammed shell, then I was able to manually cycle the upper and clear the jam.
I was firing the remington FMJ loads 230gr.
Upon closer inspection of the casing, the primer specifically, I noticed the pin strike, dead center, but ALSO
a "line" emanating from the center of the pic strike, all the way to the edge of the primer charge?? Kinda like the firing pin dragged?

Any thoughts?

You need to send it back to Glock Bro. You get too talk to the wonderful techs who will politely tell you there is no problem with that weapon. Then when you want to reach though the phone and rip the liars heart out, Kung Fouey style, Stay calm. Become one with your inner self. Chi.
Glock will fix the problem. Wait there is no problem. HMMM.... Well what are they fixing if there is no problem. Become one. Chi.
Put the weapon down. Do not fire it anymore. Stop. The weapoonn you have in your hands is a bomb. Repeat bomb.
Send the weapon back to the factory in Georgia. There they will replace all your pins. Wait why are they fixing and replacing all the pins. Chi. Become one with the tech. HMMMMM!! He is your friend.
There will be a 6 to 8 week turn around. Chi.
Tell them you are a Police Officer, undercover. I did. They had it back to me Fed X in 4 days.
Ask for Doug. Real nice guy.
Glock
6000 Highlands Parkway
Smyrna Georgia, 30082 # 1-866-538-3517.

Stay calm. Become one with the tech. Chi.

If you mail it through the U.S.P.S... which is legal. Break the weapon down.
If the bull dyke bitch behind the counter asks if it is a gun. No it just became parts. Chi. Become one with you Glock. Do not put gun anywhere on the return package. Chi.

[tanvil]

That really sucks. I've been one with my M21 for a very long time. It has never failed!
The older ones were the stuff. Not sure about the new ones.(?)

[vz58]

the primer drag is not too uncommon but without a pic I cant be sure if we are talking about the same thing.

So it chambered from the mag and fired fine?
but failed to eject and the case was somehow INFRONT of the extractor and where was the case rim?

[upgrayedd]

Originally Posted by vz58

the primer drag is not too uncommon but without a pic I cant be sure if we are talking about the same thing.

So it chambered from the mag and fired fine?
but failed to eject and the case was somehow INFRONT of the extractor and where was the case rim?

Yes. The rim was lodged just off center of the barrel port, preventing it from re-entering the barrel. I've never seen not heard of this before, unlike the "smokestack" jam which is common yet simple to clear.
I dropped the mag which allowed me clear and re-engage.
I'll see if I can get a pic of the case bottom and post it soon

anyhow...the "drag" looks EXACTLY like what happened. The "drag" line wasnt a small or shallow one either..It was DEEP, deep as the actual pin strike dimple....

[upgrayedd]

[quote=4thIDvet;504755]

Originally Posted by upgrayedd

So, I have only put about 12 shots through my pistol thus far and on shot number 8, the casing became lodged halfway between the barrel and the extractor, forcing the breach to remain open while the empty casing hung up the breach(not a smokestack).
I had to remove the mag, which released the tension from under the jammed shell, then I was able to manually cycle the upper and clear the jam.
I was firing the remington FMJ loads 230gr.
Upon closer inspection of the casing, the primer specifically, I noticed the pin strike, dead center, but ALSO
a "line" emanating from the center of the pic strike, all the way to the edge of the primer charge?? Kinda like the firing pin dragged?

Any thoughts?

You need to send it back to Glock Bro. You get too talk to the wonderful techs who will politely tell you there is no problem with that weapon. Then when you want to reach though the phone and rip the liars heart out, Kung Fouey style, Stay calm. Become one with your inner self. Chi.
Glock will fix the problem. Wait there is no problem. HMMM.... Well what are they fixing if there is no problem. Become one. Chi.
Put the weapon down. Do not fire it anymore. Stop. The weapoonn you have in your hands is a bomb. Repeat bomb.
Send the weapon back to the factory in Georgia. There they will replace all your pins. Wait why are they fixing and replacing all the pins. Chi. Become one with the tech. HMMMMM!! He is your friend.
There will be a 6 to 8 week turn around. Chi.
Tell them you are a Police Officer, undercover. I did. They had it back to me Fed X in 4 days.
Ask for Doug. Real nice guy.
Glock
6000 Highlands Parkway
Smyrna Georgia, 30082 # 1-866-538-3517.

Stay calm. Become one with the tech. Chi.

If you mail it through the U.S.P.S... which is legal. Break the weapon down.
If the bull dyke bitch behind the counter asks if it is a gun. No it just became parts. Chi. Become one with you Glock. Do not put gun anywhere on the return package. Chi.

Tim, thanks, I will return this to Glock POst HASTE. And just after a call to them explaining the issue and that this is only after 12 rounds. Seriously, 12 rounds. I fired the first 6, no prob last week.

I will not accept excuses or the "dog and pony" show answers either from Glock this time.

[moleman]

I've shot some department issue P+P ammo that left a primer drag mark. It just means the action started to open before the firing pin was withdrawn.

[vz58]

It sounds like the firing pin was either stuck out or the action opened too soon. the think I wonder about was the rim of the case being out of the extractor and hte case mouth run back up onto the back of the barrel.

Can I get a pic of what it looked like after malfunction and the case base. Is there and ejector mark on the brass?

[4thIDvet]

[quote=upgrayedd;504891]

Originally Posted by 4thIDvet

Tim, thanks, I will return this to Glock POst HASTE. And just after a call to them explaining the issue and that this is only after 12 rounds. Seriously, 12 rounds. I fired the first 6, no prob last week.

I will not accept excuses or the "dog and pony" show answers either from Glock this time.

Dog and pony show is correct bud. 30 something thousand Police Officers Glocks that were "REPAIRED" wait there is no problem, huh, in New York city might be telling us something.
vz will be back on this post I am sure. vz your mentioning something about the pins. How interesting that is what Glock replaced on mine. Trigger pins, firing pins, every friggen pin. But wait, why did they replace them if they could not find any problems with them. Huh.
Remember I backed off from my last post, discussion, on this subject out of respect for Gunco Bob and the site.
I was PISSED not that Glock has problems. But that Police Officers were getting notified as to potential problems with the weapon and NOT the general public.
If you own a Glock and don't beleive me. Keep shooting it have fun. Please wear safety goggles. The eyes you save may be your own.
Call the Winter Haven Police Dept. They really like there Glocks.
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Since the repair for the problem that did not exist. Huh. I have put about 30 rounds through it with no problems, YET.

[1_v8_merc]

I got a G23, i get alot of UNshot rounds jamming and sticking out like a stovepipe.
(not sure if stovepipe is a fired round or full live round)

But i only get it when i shoot Aquila mexican crap.

But THEN i recently discovered damage to my glock!

I HAVE many detailed pictures if you guys wanna see em, i posted them at another forum and nobody could tell me what was wrong!

Its a 2nd Gen Glock BTW, it HAD a factory rebuild or whatever you call it...before i bought it.

I still shoot it every other week......i know im stupid, but i dont have another pistol right now.....and i may have pistol qualifications comming up soon, so i have to practice.