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Old 08-22-2008, 07:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am trying to get some info on this rifle. My dad is going to give this to me when my first tour is up here soon, and dont know a thing about it. It is Japanese Im guessing because of the writing on top, but thats about it. Any info would be great. Thanks.








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Old 08-22-2008, 07:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Looks like a model 99 Arisaka 7.7mm. The following is from [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

The Arisaka was named after the Colonel who oversaw its adoption in 1897. The 38th Year designation referred to the uniquely Imperial Japanese practice of basing a calendar on the length of time a particular Emperor had ruled. When the original model was amended in 1905, the Emperor Meiji had been on the throne for thirty eight years.

The Arisaka was a reliable and popular weapon in the East, its low recoil 6.5 mm round being appreciated for its ease of handling. It was, however, also its greatest weakness. The 6.5 mm round was known to be less effective than the 7.62 mm or higher rounds used elsewhere, especially by Japan's foes. A revised model, the Type 99 was produced in 1939. It fired the 7.7 mm round used in the Japanese heavy machine gun. It supplemented the earlier version in service, but production was too limited to replace it. Its statistics were roughly similar to the Type 38 given above.

Both models came in a shortened carbine form, the Type 38 at around 87 cm in length and 3.3 kg in weight, while the Type 99 was 112 cm and 3.9 kg. Ammunition was carried in two pouches, each holding a half dozen five rounds clips for a total of sixty rounds for the average soldier.
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Old 08-22-2008, 09:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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looks like the emperors flower has been ground off. I think they did this before surrendering their rifles. Good looking jap rifle, most look like they were used to paddle a boat. It even still has the cleaning rod, the dust cover is missing. No big deal though, most jap soldier threw it away because it rattled bad. I have one with the bayonet and dust cover. I don't blame the japs for throwing away the metal dust cover. The ammo can still be found for the rifle but it is very expensive. I also have 2 original stripper clips and ammo that were given to me by a friends father. I take mine hunting, believe it or not these rifles are very accurate, don't let their looks fool you. The cool thing is they shoot like a 22 cal rifle. I picked mine up for $20.00 at a pawn shop even came with a bayonet. These rifles are very cool and have a lot of history behind them. I sometimes wonder what a jap soldier would think if he knew the rifle he was issued would be in the southern woods of the U.S. shooting deer.
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Wow. WWII jap gun, 7.7mm, no emperors flower. Damn, good info, thanks a lot. Is there a way to check the serial number on the reciever?
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I read somewhere that the U.S. rebarreled some arisakas to 30-06 and gave them to south Koreans at the begining of that war.
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Not that I know of, the flower is actually called a cris-something, I can't spell it. The rifles with the flower still on them are more desirable, especially in the 7.7 cal because these were used more in WWII. I can' tell but does your rifle have the sight that has the arms that drop down?? If so these are used to shoot at planes(believe it or not). The sights for the plane shooting really didn't work well. But the higher ups of Japanese army thought that this would give the soldiers a moral boost. The flower on the receiver is suppose to be like a blessing from the emperor. The japs thought of him being a "god on earth" That is why the flowers were ground off the receivers supposedly, so they wouldn't shame the emperor.

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If the U.S. did rebarrel them to 30-06 and give them to our allies. Then I bet there were highly pissed at us. I would be scared to shoot one of these rifles in 30-06. I don't think the locking mechanism would handle that strong of a bullet. But then again the germans did the same for the italians when they had the bright idea to rechamber the 6.5 Carcano to 8mm.
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Old 08-22-2008, 10:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Chrysanthemum. I was kinda thinking that they weren't that strong of an action either. I'm pretty sure it was the article in shotgun news a while back. They were saying that the action is one of the strongest military actions, but they get a bad rap from the last ditch guns that were made. I'll look to see if I still have the article.
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Old 08-22-2008, 10:20 PM   #9 (permalink)
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most jap soldier threw it away because it rattled bad.
That BS, not saying you are, but that story is bull and you were miss informed. The covers only rattle when the bolt is open, and the Jap soldiers had to take care of their firearms or they were disciplined.


Kyle is that a wood butt plate?
It looks like a late model, I believe a lot of people refer to then as a "last ditch" because the craftsmanship got very poor late in the war.
It looks like a nice rifle from the pics, I'll see if I can find out some more info.
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Old 08-22-2008, 11:26 PM   #10 (permalink)
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The buttplate is metal. It has some rust but I posted a pic. The iron sight doesnt flip up or anything, it adjust's for elevation, but thats it. I'll put a better pic of that as well. Thanks a lot for the info so far guys.


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