PSL Bull Barrel

[patjsimpson]

Originally Posted by 1biggun

I think there chrome lined so rechambering would be difficult.

I got one awhile ago and it isn't chrome lined. But still not sure if the twist rate would be optimized for the higher grain bullets of the 7.62x54.

Pat

[1biggun]

On a rifle can't you move the serial numbers? I remember hearing you can't on a pistol, but have heard nothing about rifles.

I have no intention of moving numbers on any rifle or pistol an yes it would be illeagle.

I got one awhile ago and it isn't chrome lined. But still not sure if the twist rate would be optimized for the higher grain bullets of the 7.62x54.

Interesting on the non chromed part. 30-06 barrels are 1-10 and 1-12 and they stablelize the heavy bullets. most 7.62x39 barrel are about 1-10.



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Like I mentioned Pac-Nor sells heavy .311 balnks but there not cheap but your buying a quality barrel and that costs money. If accuaracy is the goal then the barrel is the heart of the system. personaly if your going for accuracy you will want to be hand loading and if your going to hand load just get a .308 blank and take advantage of all the match grade bullets and 100,s of choices. there are some 308 bull barrels off of 700 Rem every now and then that go for around $100 that could be rechamberd. but I dont really consider a factory remington barrel any thing special

I checked out the link to the Vepr with the round tube. it looks cool but the tube dosent float. his accuracy was not that impresive at 100 yards either. a 223 or x39 set up like that would be a cool looking set up. Id want to truely float the tube however.

[dogzombie]

Originally Posted by Coils

What do you mean about the bold part, just the caliber or the looks of the rifle? If you mean the looks of the rifle, that's going to limit your choices and make for a lot more work modding parts. If this is what you want then I'd just look for a barrel about twice the wall thickness of the original.

If looks don't matter and you have access to a machine shop, then the sky (and your budget) is the limit.

I got some things to do but will give my crude suggestions later.

I would like to keep the same caliber but it does seem the .308 would offer more choice. I would really like to keep the rifle looking as close to the original look as possible but I do understand that the completed rifle wont quite look like the original design.

Im not to savvy on reloading rifle rounds just shotgun shells so I guess I will be learning real quick.

This brings me to the next question. Would the mags,bolt, ejector also have to be modified or can a .308 round be loaded into the 54 cartridge

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Originally Posted by dogzombie

This brings me to the next question. Would the mags,bolt, ejector also have to be modified or can a .308 round be loaded into the 54 cartridge

Has been done many times. The finns used .308 bullets in some of their x54r [actually x53r, but it is pretty much the same thing...]. Most reloading die sets come with 2 expander balls, one for .310 and another for .308 diameter bullets.

I sure hope you mean loading x54r with .308 diameter bullets and not putting .308 [7.62x51] ammo in a x54r chamber.

[dogzombie]

I sure hope you mean loading x54r with .308 diameter bullets and not putting .308 [7.62x51] ammo in a x54r chamber.[/quote]

yes I do mean loading x54r sorry about that and thanks.I picked up some loading mannuals from my neigbor just had not had time to look at them yet.

[1biggun]

or can a .308 round be loaded into the 54 cartridge

a .308 bullet can be loaded into a 7.62x54 case. the 7.62x54r usualy has a bore bigger than .308 but there are many examples of mosin nagents that are .308 as well as guy reporting some PSL,s being close to .308. you would likely require a smaller expander ball on your dies but that is no big deal. If you do go with a .308 bore you would want to avoid hot loads with the .311 bullets at there can be a pressure increase.

its about the same thing as what and others do when they load .308 bullets in 7.62x39 cases. I have a 308x39 build and it shoots very well. Its very likely that the old US made 7.62x54R ammo was loaded with .308 projectiles. There were 7.62x54r Mosin Nagents made in the US and there was ammo made here as well. a 308 bullet in a .311 bore useualy gives up some accuracy.

If you plan on hand loading then going with the .308 bore barrel is a no brainer. if your only going to shoot surplus or factory then get a .311 barrel

if accuracy is your main goal then Id be looking at .308

you can keep the gun loooking pretty stock with a heavy barrel just use the krebs block and mill off the sight part and cut of the bottom of a RSB and weld on a oversize sleave. just keep the OD small enough to be able to open up the wood hand guards. even if you didnt float any thing the accuracy would improve as the haeaver barrel will not move around as much as it heats up. A medium profle that is workable with that GB would be pretty doable. now if you going full bull barrel then plan on ditching the factory stuff or making some custom oversize stuff.

I have several heavy barrel AK variant builds they shot very well.