How to get your SBR, Dialogue thread - Page 10

kernelkrink · 05-18-2008, 02:16 AM

Your application would specify the length you will cut it down to unless you want to build and shoot it as a longer length NFA rifle first for some reason. If you are wanting to build it now and shoot it while you await the paperwork,you cannot legally build it with a less than 16" bbl until the paperwork is approved. If the bbl is already too short you would have to add a welded on muzzle extender to get it long enough to build without paperwork.

ATF measures bbl length from the breechface to the muzzle or the end of any permanently attached muzzle extender. Lock the bolt in battery and drop a cleaning rod down the bbl. Mark the level where it exits and that's you're length. On non-NFA stuff it's wise to add a bit beyond the 16" minimum as they measure to the shortest spot on the muzzle. If you are right at 16" and get a huge dent in it by dropping it, the bottom of the dent is the new measurement.

Bret · 05-18-2008, 10:31 AM

bhcoker, if you were going to modify a barrel by cutting it down, you'd want to do so before putting it in the receiver. Therefore, you'd use the new short length that it's going to be. Keep in mind that you'll also probably have to open up the gas port to get it to function reliably.

yarro · 06-14-2008, 06:43 PM

I just did the paperwork for moving my NFA weapon to another state. The ATFE said it would take 2-3 weeks after receipt to processes and put it back in the mail. They put it back in the mail 6 weeks after receiving it. Sucked as I was moving permenantly to Texas and I would not have had the paperwork in hand except we put off the move by a week for other reasons. My friend sent in multiple form 4s at the same time. His transfers came back in 4 weeks.

-Yarro

**SalBO** · 06-15-2008, 01:08 PM

I am glad everyone is making use and getting something from this thread. I think I have answered all the emails sent with questions. Get your SBR's while you can. You never know what will happen after November.....

mohara1 · 06-23-2008, 10:58 PM

In Florida. I don't believe I need any Law enforcement sign off. I have other weapons ie full auto MP5 to my LLC and now have revocable trust.

If that is the case and I am building a side folding Bulgarian Krink
I think I should
Apply as corporation or other business??? not as individual for a trust
Not need print cards or LE signoff on this

AM I CORRECT??

mohara1 · 06-23-2008, 11:00 PM

Please check my post
am I correct, if applying for as in revocable trust do I apply as corporation or other business entity and therefore not need LE signoff or print cards, I have other weapons that went thru my LLC and didn't need LE or print cards. But these were transfers not builds??

Thanks

**BigAl** · 06-24-2008, 09:06 PM

my question is why everyone is engraving their personal information on the receiver when the form specifically asks for the receiver manufacturer????

can someone explain??

kernelkrink · 06-24-2008, 09:21 PM

The receiver manufacturer is the manufacturer of the receiver, you are the manufacturer of the NFA firearm. Sometimes both are the same, most times the work to make it an NFA piece is done by somebody else. I can buy an AR15 from Colt, Colt made a rifle not an SBR. I install an 11" bbl I made an SBR so my info has to go on the rifle as I made it, just made from an existing rifle.

**BigAl** · 06-26-2008, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kernelkrink

The receiver manufacturer is the manufacturer of the receiver, you are the manufacturer of the NFA firearm. Sometimes both are the same, most times the work to make it an NFA piece is done by somebody else. I can buy an AR15 from Colt, Colt made a rifle not an SBR. I install an 11" bbl I made an SBR so my info has to go on the rifle as I made it, just made from an existing rifle.

still not sure I agree or understand. section 7.4 and 6.2.1 don't spell it like that.

1. i register receiver model 12345 as SBR

2. I register it as NODAK Spud model 99 in block 4a (ORIGINAL RECEIVER MANUFACTURER) that's what block 4a asks for...

3. I send it to Inrange to assemble. they are the builder. I have not done anything, why should my name go on the rifle as the manufacturer.

I think the intent of this has been misinterpreted....

kernelkrink · 06-26-2008, 02:14 PM

You can't register a receiver as an SBR as there is no bbl attached. Without a short bbl attached it is not an SBR. Filing a form 1 is essentially asking permission to build an SBR ON receiver # 12345. Attaching a short bbl to the receiver is considered manufacturing the NFA firearm, a separate act from the manufacture of the receiver. You have "done something", you filed the form 1 one asking permission to do so, you are the manufacturer of that NFA firearm for record keeping purposes even if you subcontract the actual assembly to someone else.