12GA FH--Hairy Shotgun/Rifle--

[hubel458]

Some info you all may find interesting
in our 12GA FH testing and experimenting.
I'm visiting here and passing it on.Nice site here.
There are two videos of our 12GA FH on YouTube,
exploding big heavy walled plastic pails of water.
Not milk jugs , but 6 gal water in thick
plastic. with thick locked on lids........
The "Grampa's Cannon" one with a long view,
and "Grandpa's First Shot" a closeup video,
the first one, that shows how the top of heavy
shelf got bent. Later kids will do film videos showing
muzzle blast and recoil. We also have tested an
8GA FH, we made on an Enfield bolt action.
Also 3 ought buckshot from the 8ga load
goes through 2" hardwood ok. I will test
8ga on waterpail also, to see what happens. Ed

[Winn R]

would you link us to your info?

[Coils]

What he said


Welcome to the forum

[upgrayedd]

Did I miss something?
At the risk of sounding dumb, what is "FH"?

The promise of exploding targets DOES pique my interest, though....

[hubel458]

The experimenting is called the 12GA From Hell.
There are 2.5 year long threads on it on The Highroad
and Firingline Forums.and many others.It is a long brass 12 ga case
we setup in strong guns for great velocity, like 600gr hard lead slugs
at 2600 or more fps.Here is pic of case next to regular length 12ga plastic
case, and the plastic still fires in smae chamber. It is just a modern
version of the African 12ga paradox guns. Second pic is my
Savage 210 bolt action with heavy barrel chambered for it.Ed

[upgrayedd]

thanks. That looks REALLY cool.

[hubel458]

Here is Url for Grandpa's First Shot video-
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Here is pic of NEF we also have the 12GA FH in.. Ed

[g2busmc]

ok already how do we do it?

[1biggun]

THERE WAS SOME LINKS IN THE CALIBUR CONVERSONS AREA. i THINK hc pookie MAY HAVE POSTED THEM. BY THE WAY THEY ARE STILL CONSIDERD SHOTGUNS AND NOT DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES.

[hubel458]

-Well with NEF we lengthened chamber for our long brass case.
Its barrel was heavy and thick enough. added weight, thumbhole stock.
With Savage210 and other guns we used heavy barrels, added
weight. On all guns used thick recoil pads.Guns still can
fire shorter plastic or brass cases.
We made our long brass case by putting rims on bmg brass and
fireforming, or have Rocky Mtn Cartridge make them. We also
developed slug loads for 3" and 3.5" long plastic 12ga cases that are
much stronger than factory. We used slower powders than shotgun powders,
and are able to use a lot more, and still have shotgun type low peak pressures.
Like in NEF 3.5" plastic case, 600gr slug at almost 2100 fps. 15k psi load.
In savage with long brass case 600gr at 3000 fps using full loads
of slow rifle powder. About 30k psi load. We had some loads pressure tested
to confirm that our velocity and pressure formulas are accurate. Ed