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Old 02-20-2013, 10:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So thinking about this and trying to make sense of it. I was looking at the current situation and this is what I have come up with so far:

If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one;
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns banned;

If a conservative doesn't like a tv show, he doesn't watch it;
If a liberal doesn't like a tv show, he wants it taken off the air;

If a conservative comes upon hard times, he thinks of ways to better his situation;
If a liberal comes up on hard time, he finds someone to blame and says they should take care of them;

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat;
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants to regulate the sale of meat or attempts to ban it alltogether;

If a conservative doesn't believe in God, he doesn't go to church;
If a liberal doesn't believe in God, he wants any mention of God or religion silenced (unless you aren't Christian, being anti-any other religion would make you culturally insensative)

If a white conservative doesn't like President Obama, it's becasue he is racist;
If a black liberal doesn't like President Bush, it's because President Bush is a racist...

Trying to put my finger on the pulse of things, but it seems to me liberals seem to view the world through the eyes of someone who has been wronged, by who I don't know. But try debating liberals and they follow the same script.

1) Argue flawed facts or statistics.
(These will almost always be proven wrong by anybody with even a little knowledge of a given topic)
2) Argue making things more fair for everyone, but make it an emotional argument.
(This is easily defeated as well usually by asking "What makes you the authority on what's fair for everybody else?" or a question of that nature)
3) Argue a belief or situation that is extremely personal and emotional to either:
A. Make the other person feel bad by telling them they have offended you. Or
B. Continue to tell the other person that they will never understand because they aren't in your shoes and do this until the other person apologizes or backs down (Hint: This will involve childhood or a child in some way shape or form)

By the time option 3 comes around, any smart person has already rolled their eyes and gotten out of the conversation becasue arguing with an idiot they will always bring you down to their level and defeat you with experiance.

What I have come to believe is trying to convince them or show them the ignorance of extreme liberal faith would be like them trying to convince you that 2+2=5. Your main goal should be to take their point into consideration and use it as a tool for your next engagement.

Still trying to perfect my methods of debating a liberal, but this is what I have so far. Don't try to defeat your opponent now, prepare to defeat them 10 years from now.

We are outnumbered but definitely not outgunned.

Just my $0.02
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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you not using the correct term. there is no such thing as a liberal in 2013.

what we have is a "neo-socialist"

a neo-socialit will say something like "the NRA is the republican party--and keep repeating the oxymoron term "gun crime" when there is only "crime".

it is all about blame of every thing old , everything that the USA once stood for.

the neo-socialist movement is far-far left of liberal --so far left their coming up very near the NAZI party--which is all about government control of EVERYTHING.

a real liberal wants to smoke his pot in peace--

a neo-socialist wants the government to regulate,punish and eliminate all other ideas and beliefs. a social crusader that wants to correct every social problem real or imaginary with government power and tax dollars.

imagine the DMV running the world!

what we have here in the USA is a new version of NAZI --a PC NAZI , hell bent on government control of every part of your life.

you have no rights --it is up to the nanny state to provide for you. and even worse the nanny state will decide you place in it. if it decides you owe --?? it decides it is all the white mans fault? of course you paying for all this unwanted management.

only members of the elite in the party have to power to decide who is on top and who is the peons, the huddled masses waiting for that stimulus check--

for the elite liberals at the top of the neo-socialist heap no amount of money is too much, but their glad to cut food stamps to millions 25% ang then go on multi-million dollar golfing/skiing vacations, or have the tax payers kick in billions for a 20 mile long rail road only the elite will ever get to ride.

no matter how corrupt they are, the media plays the fiddle to their tune and the sheeple watch opra tell them how great america is while the trillions in debt paper turns into hundreds of trillions---
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Old 02-20-2013, 04:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Today three "isms" are trying to take over America, and, succeeding-Communism, Socialism and Liberalism. And, All three are skunks with slightly different coloring.
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:24 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I prefer Commocrats.
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And they are the Judas goat leading the sheeples
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