Disaster preparedness

[partsman]

Originally Posted by bellson

Wow! Talk about a WIDE range of possible responses!!!!

Here is my "simple" list / decision tree.

The scenario: In 4 categories.

1. Localized event, human or natural. No breakdown of order except for small areas.
The plan is to weather it out in place.

2. Regional event, Katrina scale. Numerous breakdowns of order, strained resources.
The plan is to weather it out in place.

3. Obama gets whacked, nutballs are re-enacting the "night of the long knives" and the police and Guard are overwhelmed.
The plan is to displace, and move to a pre-stocked rural area.

4. The Shit Hits the Fan.

The plan is to displace, and move to a pre-stocked rural area. A secondary move may be needed to a final "Alamo" location.

Gear? Easy!

Everything needed to sustain myself and my family, plus those close to us for 30 days in place, 120 days displaced.

Food
Water
Medical
Ammo
Guns
Fuel
Communications
Library
Transport
Shelter


I think you get the idea.

Good Luck

PLEASE, don't take this wrong. Your idea is a good one, but since I don't know about how you will execute it, just a couple of questions. "we"discussed a scenierio like this at the store over coffee. Do you own a prestocked rural area or are you going to squat? Do you know and are you friends with the population of the rural area? How far is this rural area from you home base?

Our discussion went to the low life scum in the cities. For a better word let's lump them under the term "gang bangers". How long before these gang bangers get enought pressure from hunger and other things that happen in a longer term disaster to be force to what they think are easier pickings in the rural areas. We were talking gangs not singles. In our rural community in the heart land, we know everybody for about 60 miles are and are willing to help them. In an emergency, an unknown good guy might be considered the enemy.

Do you know the geography of the rural area? I don't know where you live, but if you come to my rural area, you better be able to handle anywhere from three weeks of +100 degrees and no rain fall to six weeks of -30 below zero and three to four feet of snow. And all the land around here is private.

Good luck. I wish you the best. If you are a rural owner great. If not its something to think about.

Another thought from your list. We have a library, but no public transportation; no train or buss or air craft. we have cell phones if the regular phones go dead, reception is bad all the time. We have a cop shop, but no hospital; some of us are EMTs, but no paramedics. The closest doctor is sixteen miles away.

AND this ain't Wyoming either.

[partsman]

Originally Posted by daemon734

I like to keep myself ready for anything, from minor weather issues to mutants running the streets, and everything in between.

my truck:




in the truck:

O.K. Don't take this to heart. I'm just being a smart ass. I like the looks of your "truck", but around here a truck is 2 ton or heavies. A pickup is a 1/2 to 1 ton. A SUV is like yours. You got tools and a book, but where in the middle of nowhere are you going to get parts. Our closest Jeep dealer is 120 miles from here.

The stuff you are putting into your SUV looks like you put some thought into it, but where are you going to put the wife and kids? On the top?

Like I said, I am just kidding.

[1_v8_merc]

Holy SHIT blackblade!

I hope your house is a fortress, because good luck taking all that ammo and guns on the road with you!

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But myself personally, I have enough ammo to hold my own for awhile.
Im still in the process of stocking up alittle bit more.

Im just depending on my AK, Glock and a few shotguns.
I got my SUV with M/T's for any off-roading.
I also have my motorcycle.

Alot of people are probably going to disagree with using a motorcycle.

But IMO, it's a smart idea to have a back-up vehicle, or something to trailer along.
It's light enough so that it's really not going to hurt my MPG much dragging her along.

And I could use it for a scout bike, to go in search of more gasoline or supplies without actually burning much in the process. And i could weave in and around problem areas that might be impossible for a car or truck.
I could also bring along some extra fuel, backpack or bag of weapons or supplies or other vital things.
I would be able to ride extremely far on one tank of gas, increasing my chances alot of finding more supplies,etc.
(hell i could even syphon a few gallons of gasoline out of just about ANYTHING, and ride all day on one tank.)

My goal would be to find a boat, load up on supplies and look small islands or anything where i could isolate myself, yet be within a reasonable distance.
(of course this depends on if you live near the coastline like I do.)


But hey, that's just me!

[Black Blade]

The Bug Out Locations (BOL)

I plan to stay put but I do have a few alternative places aside from my two main cabins. should I find myself unable to stay for some reason I do have alternatives. Your objective for the Bug Out Location (BOL) should be based on how you wish to hunker down. (1) If you expect trouble then you want a BOL with an open area (kill zone) while holding the high ground and a escape route close to cover (ex. tree line). (2) The other alternative is a BOL in cover where hopefully you will be out of sight and out of mind. Generally one deep in a wooded location with running water and an escape route should the need arise.


Bug Out Location 1 (East)

The eastward Bug Out Location is located on top of a hill with an open expanse of ground (kill zone) There is a perched water table providing easy access to ground water (even with the hand pump). To the southwest and west is the treeline. The walls are steelplate lined around the base for additional protection against incoming.









Bug Out Location 2 (West)

Making the necessary preparations to weather the storm - be it economic, natural disaster or national emergency

The cabin west of Yellowstone also has been prepped and recently I was able to clean up brush, clean house, stash more freeze-dried food, ammunition and firearms, and put away a water filtration unit. The propane tank has been filled as expected and more firewood has been stacked.







A year-round creek with trout (rainbow and browns) borders the property on one side for a constant water source. Not as open as the Bladesville-2 cabin with a several-hundred yard "kill zone" but definitely more hidden and not as accessable either.

Fortunately I have access to additional alternative sites in Utah and Nevada with caches scattered throughout.

Food Storage




Cases of freeze-dried food stashed in every nook and cranny, stored water and Berkey water filtration units with spare filters.







Like this one, it's a good start. Get a minimum of four to five years supply of nonperishable food to start.

Transportation



That time again - had to retire the old Dodge recently and take advantage of the GMC "employee special" sale.



Then there's the ever reliable EMP-Proof transportation (Gary Fisher - Big Sur) limited only by winter weather conditions.

Geo-Caching

Sometimes for security reasons we must hide our wealth and survival items or simply set up a series of caches to escape and evade the dark forces what ever they may be. A series of caches of survival items along several potential paths of escape is a good idea.







Personally I prefer to make my own bury tubes out of PVC pipe but the costs savings are not necessarily that great overall. Besides, commercially made purchased cache tubes may leave an unwanted "paper trail".

- Black Blade

[FyredUp]

Okay, I think this has gone astray. I didn't really want this to turn into another all apocalyptic, bugging out with more guns than me topic. I was more interested in supplies you have or would have if you could for disasters of all kinds.

[Black Blade]

Originally Posted by FyredUp

Okay, I think this has gone astray. I didn't really want this to turn into another all apocalyptic, bugging out with more guns than me topic. I was more interested in supplies you have or would have if you could for disasters of all kinds.

I tend to think in terms of prepping for economic, political and natural disasters.

1. I think that the most likely event is economic disaster. It appears that we are at the early stages of a Greater Depression with rising unemployment and global economic collapse. I have shifted much of my investment portfolio into silver and gold as "portfolio insurance". I have actually made good returns over the last decade or so from my precious metals investments. That said, I have a good supply of nonperishable food to live off of for the next few years while waiting for a turnaround in the economy. I have been unemployed before and being debt-free and well stocked has been a great relief. It gives me peace of mind.

2. Another possibility is a political disaster. You can use your imagination on that one. If you have ever read Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged", then you will have to agree that she was either very perceptive or she foresaw the direction of this country. With the loss of freedom and liberty I just hope to be "out of sight and out of mind" living in the deep rural Rocky Mountains the rest of my days. It is accepted that we are less a capitalist free market society and on the fast track to becoming a tyrannical socialist state. I for one rather simply "Go Galt" and let it all fall apart so that it will hopefully rise from the ashes later. Another but remote possibility would be a foreign or terrorist attack using a nuclear device(s) causing EMP disruptions and the resulting chaos.

3. My only natural disaster that I can't really adequately prepare for is if the Yellowstone Caldera collapse and resulted in massive plinian flows sweeping across the land. Of course the signs as evidenced by harmonic tremors and land deformation would likely give plenty of warning to evacuate the region. Of course if Yellowstone popped it's cork then we would be looking at a global natural disaster probaby similar to Cormac McCarthy's "The Road" on par of several nuclear winters.

I'm not looking at an Apocalyptic scenario myself but rather I think that the most likely scenario is economic or perhaps a combination of political and economic disasters. But something more mundane like being suddenly unemployed due to the economy or a sudden illness or injury. At least I hope to be able to get by regardless in relative comfort.

For what preps I consider useful for short term and immediate preps then see the earlier posts.

- Black Blade

[1biggun]

I have a brick and some pieces of wire im going to break the window on black blades Jimmy hot wire it and beat him home and lock him out. he has better stuff than me LMFAO beautiful cabins BTW

seriously I have a bug out/ survival backpac that stays in the car with a hand gun in 9mm and warm clothes and a flashlight extra batterys a radio, matches, ect a 1/2 gallon of water and some protine bars 1st aid kit that if i I get stranded i can live for a day or so. It can be worn on my back to i can ride a motorcycle or a bicycle with it or walk with both arms free. I keep a hatchet and a military entrenching tool in the car as well both make good weapons as well as letting you dig a hole and chop up stuff. keep some food in the car as well. I dont always carry a cased 12" AK pistol in the car but It there on the long trips.

In my home in WI I have a generator and cords to run my house in case of a ice storm or power outage. spare gas, spare food, I keep a AK pistol that is set up for hunting and about 500 rounds off ammo and my hunting gear in a bag with all my hunting clothes and I have water, food, a 10-22 rifle and lots of ammo, I have two motorola two way radios that are on the same frequncy as my hunting buddies. that way we can talk with in two miles of each other. a CB radio would not be a bad idea either. cell phnes will likley be worthless in a true SHTF situation. all of it is near the garage door ready to be loaded into a vehicle in seconds. I also have a enduro type motorcycle that would likely be my best fast escape during the summer if things really hit he fan I know were most of the rail roads as well as the extensive bike paths and hicking trails go and could get to were my son stays 50 miles away 50% of the time with out ever getting on a highway that would be completly blocked. I would use my trunk backpack for the bike. I have no intention of fighting it out unless absolutly nessacry. My Ak pistol is deadly out to 200 yards and fits in my back pack. it works for hunting, concled carry under a coat, entry style fighting I can add a stock onto it in seconds with some basic hand tools as it is a screw build if it gets bad enough that breaking the current gun laws are nessacry or no longer a concern.

food,water, and shelter are the things I think about. travel on highways would be likley imposable at first. in winter i wish i had a snowmobile. recently during a snow strom the interstates were shut down and rescuers had to bring in food and gas and blankets to stranded motorists by snow mobile for a day. You can litteraly get fom wisconsin to yellowstone ( were Black Blade ironicaly has a cabin ) by snowmobile.

every one here should have 20 gallions of water stored, food for two weeks, radios with batterys sleeping bags and warm clothes and some basic camping type equipment. ready to be loaded at a moments notice into any vehicle. have meeting places for your friends a famly members planed in advance in case you are seperated. some place you can leave a note to let others know were you went. guns are heavy and you may soon end up on foot a 22 pistol or simular light weapon is a good idea. If on foot in a mass evacuation that may likley happen I dont want to be openly packing a rifle it makes you a target. I would want to be off the radar. I want a packpack that i can keep close to me be able to run with if needed. every one here should have a support network with friends and family were you can flee to no questions asked in a emergancy that is some distnace from were you live as well as very close to were you live. having a couple of plans for you and your family might be the most important thing. will your kids know ere to go or who to contact if you get seperated????? do they know there adress and phone numbers???? My son the other day didnt know my phone number or address not got if suddndly there was a masive earth quake or disater.

I also have several rifle/shot o/u set ups that would be a good. a 12 guage shot gun will do almost every thing if you have buck, bird,slugs add a 22 lr barrel on top and you have all the bases covered except high fire rate and over 200yard range.

[1biggun]

Oh yea I have a seroius set of tools in a carry able box that I can fix almost anything with. it is my pack in box from being a moblie service tech. you will need to fix and improvise to survive that takes tools.

[FyredUp]

Black Blade,

How many millions invested in all of this? The equipment, the guns, the food, the ammunition, the 2 Bug out cabins, the chaches of supplies along the way...and more. How much money invested?

[chopper]

Originally Posted by FyredUp

Okay this is not technically a SHTF zombie invasion thread. It is more about what you have done to prepare for any disaster. Natural, civil unrest, or whatever. I am curious as to supplies and plans you have.

Thanks for sharing.

i have firearms & ammo that is all