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Old 11-05-2008, 01:26 PM   #21 (permalink)
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We have no oath to our president just as we have no oath not to be criminals.
We just go to jail.(Ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking it)
treason against the united states includes the President.

its here:

<H3>Article 3 - The Judicial Branch
Section 3 - Treason


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[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
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Old 11-05-2008, 01:53 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I don't have a duty to the new (or old) president. My duty is to my country.

your response was...


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Shadow walker,

Then your as ignorant of our constitution as liberals
then i ask

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please point out in the Constitution where exactly i have to have some kind of oath or allegiance to the President


now as far as someone in the military their oath states they will follow the orders of the President and those appointed over them

as far as i'm concerned this is another hostage situation same as the clinton years.... America held hostage once again


and you come back with................


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We have no oath to our president just as we have no oath not to be criminals.
We just go to jail.(Ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking it)
treason against the united states includes the President.

its here:

<H3>Article 3 - The Judicial Branch
Section 3 - Treason


[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] | [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] | [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], but no Attainder of [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] shall work [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted


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so you start yammerring on about treason ?

you are part of the problem not part of the solution

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Old 11-05-2008, 03:35 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Puppy chow,

You give us a bad name. to keep our 2nd ammendment freedom as it stands we need to show we are better than them, more intelligent.

I may not be too swift but I missed what the point of your last post was. If it was that being aware of my responsibilities as a citizen of this country is the problem Then please explain how.

I am assuming you Never spent a day in service to your Country, Are unwilling to educate yourself in the laws of our country, have never acted like a man of Character who also owns guns.

You sound like the Problem not the solution.

I will not spread sedition against my country, If my country ever stops obeying its laws orstarts to hurt our citizens that will change as it is my responsibility , but Nothing like that has happened.I do own a phone and obviously a computer and I can call and send emails to Representatives from my area, democrat and republican and express my support or non support for bills. The elected representation likes to keep it's job so the amount of calls and email does direct votes.

You my freind sound like an internet tuff guy, which is okay, just remeber to every one we meet, we are the face of our sport and may be the only Gun Owner they meet. I don't want to give anyone the impression of my sport as the one this post is.


Until you have had to point a gun at another Human being in defense of our country and your life. Shut the F#@k up ,you disrespect the men who have have had to and died for their duty.
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Old 11-05-2008, 05:02 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Just a quick check of some firearms suppliers in my area today everyone is out of everything. Panic buying. Are we Sc@ewd? Dems hold all the chips.
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Old 11-05-2008, 06:20 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Puppy chow,

You give us a bad name. to keep our 2nd ammendment freedom as it stands we need to show we are better than them, more intelligent.

I may not be too swift but I missed what the point of your last post was. If it was that being aware of my responsibilities as a citizen of this country is the problem Then please explain how.

I am assuming you Never spent a day in service to your Country, Are unwilling to educate yourself in the laws of our country, have never acted like a man of Character who also owns guns.

You sound like the Problem not the solution.

I will not spread sedition against my country, If my country ever stops obeying its laws orstarts to hurt our citizens that will change as it is my responsibility , but Nothing like that has happened.I do own a phone and obviously a computer and I can call and send emails to Representatives from my area, democrat and republican and express my support or non support for bills. The elected representation likes to keep it's job so the amount of calls and email does direct votes.

You my freind sound like an internet tuff guy, which is okay, just remeber to every one we meet, we are the face of our sport and may be the only Gun Owner they meet. I don't want to give anyone the impression of my sport as the one this post is.


Until you have had to point a gun at another Human being in defense of our country and your life. Shut the F#@k up ,you disrespect the men who have have had to and died for their duty.

and you still have no clue, typical response though from an internet commando..................bet you never served............i did for nine years but that is neither here nor there

where did i say a word about sedition?

one person stated they had a duty to their Country and not to the new president and that is FACT, anyone currently wearing the uniform has to follow the orders of the pres. if they don't like it then they don't re-enlist, as a civilian i don't have to give a damn bit of respect or allegiance to the pres, my loyalties lie with MY COUNTRY not someone sitting behind a desk in the oval office

where you came up with your rant i have no clue, all you can do is attack, first with bet you never served, then saying about character ?

you still never answerred the original question but then again i'm not really expecting you, because if you had a REAL answer you would have already stated it

and as for the last statement of yours seeing as how you like to attack and make accusations an such with your lil STFU

how's this

you can kiss my ass
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Old 11-05-2008, 06:24 PM   #26 (permalink)
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oh btw bubba who exactly gave you the right to determine who can say what in this Country? who made you the spokesman for all those that have served and defended this Nation, as someone who HAS served i don't recall the newsletter making you the official spokesman

maybe you can forward me a copy of it
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:11 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I speak for no one other than myself.
If you served, than you have been sworn in,

you should understand everything I wrote.


you never asked me a question. but I have answered what you are implying already

I stand by everything I have posted.

people who speak lightly of conflict or taking lives have never been in one or had to.

your a bitch puppy
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:31 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Just a quick check of some firearms suppliers in my area today everyone is out of everything. Panic buying. Are we Sc@ewd? Dems hold all the chips.
Here too! A guy at work called CFS about a couple different guns and some ammo and they were out of everything. The person on the phone said he could put his name on the list for future shipments. Some cal. of ammo all shipments for next 2 weeks are spoken for.

I'm glad I learned from the first round of this (94) and made sure to keep "some" on hand.
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:34 PM   #29 (permalink)
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guys keep it cool. We are all on the same side.
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I don't have a duty to the new (or old) president. My duty is to my country.

+10000000000


My duty is to uphold and defend the Constitution. I am also supposed to obey the orders of those appointed over me. However, the first time they become illegal or unconstitutional, they can fuck the fuck right the fuck off.
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