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06-30-2008, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by pranny458
Isn't there a way to hot link to these stories?
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Feds raid Blackwater armory in firearms probe - USATODAY.com
here ya go
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06-30-2008, 11:39 AM
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from the link provided.
US COPYRIGHT ACT, Chapter 1, § 107. Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use
Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include --
(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.
Since this or other articles posted are for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, or research - wouldn't it be part of fair use? Of course a link to the story would be nice, and it would show where the story came from. There are many stories online that can be attributed to AP or other news sources. Having a link is good to show the "source".
But then again, i could be wrong - as the rest of the link is about the AP charging bloggers for citing its stories. This isn't a blog. 
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06-30-2008, 11:44 AM
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I always try to post the link when i post the story. IT gives credibility to show i aint making it up or it is not and "onion" article as well as giving traffic to the site it came from.
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06-30-2008, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ptannjr
I always try to post the link when i post the story. IT gives credibility to show i aint making it up or it is not and "onion" article as well as giving traffic to the site it came from.
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Also posting links makes it easier for someone to research the story if they want to. 
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06-30-2008, 11:59 AM
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Yes sir it does. IF people dont post a link, alot of times i will take a sentence or two and copy/paste it to google to find it. Then i post that link. 
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07-02-2008, 03:24 AM
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sniper and ptannjr ...
Anything I have posted here or elsewhere is with the understanding that the reposting is under FAIR USE. I have even made that comment on my earliest posts, just became redundant after awhile.
Related ... i have been closely watching the posts in the NRA section made by Gunco ... with just the lead, and a provided link. compare the hits verses those i've posted with the whole news story. The results don't encourage me to 'save bandwidth', in reality, the opposite. while there is a good point on being able to verify the integrity of a specific article, your google search idea covers that quite nicely. again, i personally stopped, finding it busy work. i endeavor to include the author and publication and date for clarity.
and alas, to pranny: i think that is the nature of this format. you post something, which is a statement in itself ... and then it is discussed. and more is then said. but by associating people, with things they bring up, and then blowing off the person, as opposed to discussing the content of a statement or ideas ... well,
best of luck there. that practice doesn't seem to lend itself to anything involving the communication arts or community forums.
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07-07-2008, 02:31 AM
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Senator James Webb: Connected to this story?
I wonder if this news story is ALSO connected to Senator Webb?
A story is running in 'Human Events' that US Senator James Webb is miffed at the Secretary of Defense for not allowing his wife and daughter to fly at government expense to and from Vietnam (Mrs. Webb is Vietnamese). Free travel for non-government employees would be a violation of federal law and the Secretary of Defense has informed Webb that DoD cannot allow the wife and daughter to fly at government expense. This news has apparently caused Senator Webb's HOT TEMPER to FLARE UP and the Senator has held up four DoD nominations and is also causing Senator Webb to hold up approval on some Blackwater contracts. I wonder if this story is ALSO somehow connected to Senator Webb?
Senator Webb was also a writer and journalist and the ATF raid followed an article in a North Carolina newspaper that was critical of Blackwater storing the Camden Sheriff Department firearms. I wonder is Senator Webb pulled some strings at the NC paper and at the ATF?
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07-07-2008, 10:23 AM
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Well, I personally hope that with the SCOTUS ruling, the NRA, et al, will push to repeal the weapons control acts of 1968 and 1934, making all this moot and the BATF still a bunch of thugs. We must never forget Ruby Ridge and Waco.
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07-07-2008, 10:53 AM
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Gunsmith-do you seriously believe that a US Senator would use his influence for personal gain and to sabotage anyone that got in his way or displeased him??? This is America-of course he would!!! I have no doubt that both incidents are connected.I had missed the Webb story,thanks for bringing it up. ---bil
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07-07-2008, 01:29 PM
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Gunsmith. very interesting. it is obvious that something triggerd there sudden raid on some thing every one knew about all ready.
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