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Old 01-10-2013, 01:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Oops – Obamacare Amendment Forbids Gun Registration

Oops – Obamacare Amendment Forbids Gun Registration

Washington DC - -(Ammoland.com)- Good news — it has become known that hidden deep within the massive 2800-page bill called Obamacare there is a Senate Amendment protecting the right to keep and bear arms.

It seems that in their haste to cram socialized medicine down the throats of the American people, then-Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Barack Obama overlooked Senate amendment 3276, Sec. 2716, part c.

According to reports, that amendment says the government cannot collect “any information relating to the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition.”

CNN is calling it “a gift to the nation’s powerful gun lobby.”

And according to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV), that’s exactly right. He says he added the provision in order to keep the NRA from getting involved in the legislative fight over Obamacare, which was so ubiquitous in 2010.

Read more at Ammoland.com: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Black Blade: Now this adds a new wrinkle.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Thats Awesome ..... And with the events of last year, could this be used to deter new laws ...
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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‘‘(c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.—řAs
added by section 10101(e)(2)ż
‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.—A wellness
and health promotion activity implemented under subsection

(a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any information
relating to—
‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully-possessed
firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property
of an individual; or
‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm
or ammunition by an individual.
‘‘(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the authorities
provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection
and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that
Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the collection
of any information relating to—
‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or
ammunition;
‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or
‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.
‘‘(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS.—None of
the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient
Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by
that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used to
maintain records of individual ownership or possession of a
firearm or ammunition.
‘‘(4) LIMITATION ON DETERMINATION OF PREMIUM RATES OR
ELIGIBILITY FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.—A premium rate may not
be increased, health insurance coverage may not be denied,
and a discount, rebate, or reward offered for participation in a wellness program may not be reduced or withheld under any
health benefit plan issued pursuant to or in accordance with
the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment
made by that Act on the basis of, or on reliance upon—
‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or
ammunition; or
‘‘(B) the lawful use or storage of a firearm or ammunition.
‘‘(5) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION REQUIREMENTS FOR
INDIVIDUALS.—No individual shall be required to disclose any
information under any data collection activity authorized
under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an
amendment made by that Act relating to—
‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or
ammunition; or
‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm
or ammunition.
‘‘(d) REGULATIONS.—Not later than 2 years after the date of enactment
of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, the Secretary
shall promulgate regulations that provide criteria for determining
whether a reimbursement structure is described in subsection
(a).
‘‘(e) STUDY AND REPORT.—Not later than 180 days after the
date on which regulations are promulgated under subsection (c),
the Government Accountability Office shall review such regulations
and conduct a study and submit to the Committee on Health, Education,
Labor, and Pensions of the Senate and the Committee on
Energy and Commerce of the House of Representatives a report regarding
the impact the activities under this section have had on
the quality and cost of health care.
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yeh, right! We'll see how far this goes.
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:37 PM   #5 (permalink)
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That's awesome, but Obamacare is also not a tax unless it's conveniant to be called that and the Middle Class wasn't going to see a tax increase.
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They will say, and it will be upheld, that it only pertains to Health and Wellness providers asking for that information. It doesn't pertain to any other type of database or registration.
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They will say, and it will be upheld, that it only pertains to Health and Wellness providers asking for that information. It doesn't pertain to any other type of database or registration.
If you go back to my post of the relevant section, I have bolded in red the text that says exactly that.

There is no help in this bill.
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If you go back to my post of the relevant section, I have bolded in red the text that says exactly that.

There is no help in this bill.
Hadn't read the whole thread before posting. I did see that after posting and finishing the thread.

Don't know why everyone seems to think this matters, but sometimes logic and common sense ....well, you know.
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Well if true then police officer judges and everybody else could not ask people about guns. none of this is going to have anything to do with Feinstein and Obama's plans.
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