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10-30-2009, 07:55 PM
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When All Else Fails...What then?
FreeRepublic
October 30, 2009
by Gargantua
First a few statements of obvious fact:
Mr. Barrack Hussein 0bama has never been properly certified as being Constitutionally eligible to hold the office of President Of The United States.
For that to have happened, members of the DNC Elections Certification body would have to have seen and personally witnessed a certified version of Obama’s long form birth certificate to verify his eligibility. Yet we know that Obama has never shown such. In fact, not only has he never produced this document (nor has any member of the DNC ever claimed to have witnessed same), he has legally fought being forced to produce it to the tune of more than $1.7 million dollars in legal fees. Same for his college and passport records, much of which there is now recent proof of illegal tampering with.
Many court cases have been filed to contest this jabbering poppinjay’s eligibility. No court, from the Circuit to the Appellate to the Supreme Court of the United States, will hear these cases, all basically claiming that nobody “has standing” to challenge this blatant, Communist usurper.
Many members of Congress have been approached about this matter. I have to believe every member is aware of at least as much as I am. No member of the Senate or the House of Representatives has displayed any intention of seeing the Constitution upheld here.
Between 2 and 3 million voters traveled to Washington a little over a month ago to express unequivocally their unanimous insistence that our government not pass mass government healthcare reform or cap and trade. What are our legislators, and the liar’s Administration working night and day to railroad through? Mass government healthcare reform, and cap and trade.
The government-run media pravdas claimed that there were only “tens-of-thousands” of protesters at the multi-million-member-march on D.C., laying down suppression-fire to cover the asses of our legislators as they charged ahead with the very plans that We the People, their bosses, told them to stop working on immediately.
Now Obama is about to sign a Treaty with the UN which will begin to cede U.S. Sovereignty to the UN world body. The Senate will then have to ratify it for it to become Law.
Now for some sobering observations:
If the Senate passes ratification, then the gloves come off.
For the time being, we have still some rights left. Some have already been taken from us. No Jesus in School. No God in Government. No Nativity on the town green at Christmas. We still have the right peaceably to assemble. The right to bear arms. The right to speak our opinions freely. So far... At what point do we understand that our other channels of recourse have pretty much been used with no success? That our remaining avenues of recourse are few, and that at the end of all polite negotiation (assuming our ministrations have by then still produced no result) there remains only to pull up our “bootstraps,” drop the rhetoric and the group chants, and take back our disappearing Constitutional Republic?
We are almost out of polite options. The voting booths remain our last hope for a “dry” restoration of our Constitution as the guiding Law of the Land. Best get out and vote, folks. Because if that final resort comes, whoever wins will neither look nor feel like they won anything. It’ll be that bad.
We’re right on the edge. It deserves to be said that the last time our country was this close to an all out Revolution, we had one.

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10-31-2009, 12:48 AM
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I'm ready to secede. I don't know about anyone else. How does the state of renegadebuck sound?
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10-31-2009, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by dinkydow
For the time being, we have still some rights left. Some have already been taken from us. No Jesus in School. No God in Government. No Nativity on the town green at Christmas.
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Was mostly agreeing till this part. I'm growing tired of this crying about the removal of "god" from america. "God" has no place in this country except in the minds of private citizens.
Now there are some exceptions, historical locations, memorials (such as the cross in the desert the ACLU is trying to tear down), etc.
If you want to prey to some deity, fine, do it in your own home or designated place of worship on your own time.
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10-31-2009, 01:10 AM
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I vote to secede.
I've never seen such a deluge of National Socalism (Nazi),
crap. It will take a revolt to regain lost freedom, how bad it will have to
get, who knows.
And, I also agree, God of any religion, has no place in Gov.
Separation of Church and State is what preserves religious freedom for
the individual.
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10-31-2009, 11:13 AM
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i don't think GOD and government is a good idea.
but there is something wrong with a government that is ANTI-GOD/ anti religion.
or a government that is for every god and religion EXCEPT the religion of the founding fathers.
the way things are being run now-- you could put up a statue of a child raper/murder/pedo/sadest declare him god. probably get the government to fund the project because your in some kind of cult/minority.
at the same time government funded leftists are trying to remove crosses and the star of david from Arlington?
it is just insane when you think about it.
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10-31-2009, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by o.d. ak
Was mostly agreeing till this part. I'm growing tired of this crying about the removal of "god" from america. "God" has no place in this country except in the minds of private citizens.
Now there are some exceptions, historical locations, memorials (such as the cross in the desert the ACLU is trying to tear down), etc.
If you want to prey to some deity, fine, do it in your own home or designated place of worship on your own time.
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Keep in mind that I'm not a religious man. Haven't attended (Christian) church except for funerals, weddings, etc for over 30 years.
What about the case where a local community overwhelmingly wants a central nativity scene placed in town. The town green is an obvious place: central, well-lit and maintained, good access and facility. It's also town (government) property. This is the kind of God I think we have overreacted to. Growing up, I saw nativity scenes, passover scenes, Channuka displays, even the occasional Ramadan display, all on government property.
All because the provate taxpayers were supported in making their displays because the government allowed it in a convenient, common place. Not so, anymore. And, a piece of human "soul" has been lost in the process, IMHO. People end up fearing that which is forbidden.
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10-31-2009, 04:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dinkydow
FreeRepublic
October 30, 2009
by Gargantua
First a few statements of obvious fact:
Mr. Barrack Hussein 0bama has never been properly certified as being Constitutionally eligible to hold the office of President Of The United States.
For that to have happened, members of the DNC Elections Certification body would have to have seen and personally witnessed a certified version of Obama’s long form birth certificate to verify his eligibility. Yet we know that Obama has never shown such. In fact, not only has he never produced this document (nor has any member of the DNC ever claimed to have witnessed same), he has legally fought being forced to produce it to the tune of more than $1.7 million dollars in legal fees. Same for his college and passport records, much of which there is now recent proof of illegal tampering with.
Many court cases have been filed to contest this jabbering poppinjay’s eligibility. No court, from the Circuit to the Appellate to the Supreme Court of the United States, will hear these cases, all basically claiming that nobody “has standing” to challenge this blatant, Communist usurper.
Many members of Congress have been approached about this matter. I have to believe every member is aware of at least as much as I am. No member of the Senate or the House of Representatives has displayed any intention of seeing the Constitution upheld here.
Between 2 and 3 million voters traveled to Washington a little over a month ago to express unequivocally their unanimous insistence that our government not pass mass government healthcare reform or cap and trade. What are our legislators, and the liar’s Administration working night and day to railroad through? Mass government healthcare reform, and cap and trade.
The government-run media pravdas claimed that there were only “tens-of-thousands” of protesters at the multi-million-member-march on D.C., laying down suppression-fire to cover the asses of our legislators as they charged ahead with the very plans that We the People, their bosses, told them to stop working on immediately.
Now Obama is about to sign a Treaty with the UN which will begin to cede U.S. Sovereignty to the UN world body. The Senate will then have to ratify it for it to become Law.
Now for some sobering observations:
If the Senate passes ratification, then the gloves come off.
For the time being, we have still some rights left. Some have already been taken from us. No Jesus in School. No God in Government. No Nativity on the town green at Christmas. We still have the right peaceably to assemble. The right to bear arms. The right to speak our opinions freely. So far... At what point do we understand that our other channels of recourse have pretty much been used with no success? That our remaining avenues of recourse are few, and that at the end of all polite negotiation (assuming our ministrations have by then still produced no result) there remains only to pull up our “bootstraps,” drop the rhetoric and the group chants, and take back our disappearing Constitutional Republic?
We are almost out of polite options. The voting booths remain our last hope for a “dry” restoration of our Constitution as the guiding Law of the Land. Best get out and vote, folks. Because if that final resort comes, whoever wins will neither look nor feel like they won anything. It’ll be that bad.
We’re right on the edge. It deserves to be said that the last time our country was this close to an all out Revolution, we had one.

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HA. Obama is our president right? Obama is the chairman of the UN security council right? article 1 , section 9 of the US constitution says: No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state. Thats high treason right? 
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10-31-2009, 05:02 PM
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I also vote to secede. We southers done it be for,why not now .
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10-31-2009, 05:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o.d. ak
Was mostly agreeing till this part. I'm growing tired of this crying about the removal of "god" from america. "God" has no place in this country except in the minds of private citizens.
Now there are some exceptions, historical locations, memorials (such as the cross in the desert the ACLU is trying to tear down), etc.
If you want to prey to some deity, fine, do it in your own home or designated place of worship on your own time.
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I know many soldiers and LEOs that would beg to differ with you sir. I also assume you would like to have the name "God" removed from all of our currency and references to same removed from all state and federal buildings.
"Now there are some exceptions, historical locations, memorials (such as the cross in the desert the ACLU is trying to tear down), etc."
Kinda like being a "little bit" pregnant IMHO. Thank you for providing us some exceptions....
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10-31-2009, 05:47 PM
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Did anyone even read my post? If you don't believe me check it up for yourself it's hard cold fact 
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