Tried searching but I cant' find a thread already. It seems "aid" is too short a word to produce anything valuable and "first" is too vague. Anyway... looking to build up a good 3-4 day kit. Lots of kits out there FS nowadays but to me they are extremely overpriced. I am NOT planning to do any surgery unless it is to remove a splinter because I'm not qualified, so I don't need any of that "for military use" trauma stuff. Thinking about sprains, cuts, broken bones, etc. Stuff you'd expect to get on a camping trip scenario. Maybe even burns.
This is what I have so far... anything to add? A tourniquet? Other medicines? Quick-clot stuff? Anything else?
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Adhesive bandages in a variety of sizes
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• 1 adhesive cloth tape (10 yards x 1 inch)
• 2 absorbent compress dressings (5 x 9 inches)
• 25 adhesive bandages (assorted sizes)
• 1 roller bandage (3 inches wide)
• 1 roller bandage (4 inches wide)
• 5 sterile gauze pads (3 x 3 inches)
• 5 sterile gauze pads (4 x 4 inches)
• 2 triangular bandages
• 1 sterile gauze trauma pad: 5" x 9" (12.7cm x 22.9cm)
• 5 waterproof bandages: 1" x 3" (2.54cm x 7.62cm)
• 5 butterfly closures
2 packs of quick-clot
3' of surgical tubing (powdered, in a Ziploc, so it doesn't stick to itself)
1 small roll of gauze
1 roll of tape
3 chemical light sticks
1 large plastic trash bag
1 single-edge razor blade
1 mylar "space blanket"
I also carry a flashlight all the time, so it's technically not part of the kit.
The contents of the kit were decided on after extensive thought about the situations I might encounter. Spurting blood - quick clot, then the tourniquet if it comes down to that. Gauze to cover an eye socket or for "feel-good" over cuts. Trash bag and tape to cover a sucking chest wound or exposed intestines. Razor blade to cut away clothing and cut tape or plastic.
Space blanket to help deal with shock, cold weather, coverage from rain, and visibility to find the injured person again.
Light sticks - one for the injured person, two to mark the crash site so I and/or an ambulance can find it.
For a motorcycle crash, my thought is that other than stanching spurting blood, or a sucking chest wound, there's not a whole lot I can do. So the plan is to deal with that to keep them alive, then (worst case, I'm the only person available) I mark the site and ride off for help. Cold, dark, and rain are also likely factors.
Dressings and gauze aren't very useful; any wounds are probably going to be dirty to start with, and the EMTs will cut them off as soon as they arrive. The only reason I have the small roll of gauze is that people tend to pick at things that are hanging out that shouldn't be; covering them can prevent additional damage.
With the incidence of contagious diseases being so high nowadays, you'd better hope someone else shows up who knows CPR, because I ain't gonna. I'll do the obsolete style that depended entirely on chest compressions if I need to.
The last time I was at a crash there was no phone service, so I had to stop motorists and send them off for help. I wound up staying with the guy who wrecked. (he lost a leg to a road sign) Send three or four people, preferably in different directions. If there are no people around, you'll have to do the best you can and then go off for help on your own.
Snakebite isn't something you normally have to worry about on a motorcycle, but if you're in the woods it would be important to have a snakebite kit. If you're going to be out for days you'll probably want tools to remove splinters or objects left in puncture wounds, and maybe a needle and thread to sew up gaping wounds.
"liquid bandage" - same as liquid skin that is the stuff used to "glue" minor cuts?
Also read that some of the quick-clot stuff is shellfish based, and some people like my wife with shellfish allergies could have reactions. Any options that aren't shellfish-based?
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You stated that you won't need a surgical kit with the exception of digging out a splinter.
As a hardwood flooring guy, splinters are an everyday occurrence.
I've streamlined removal into a fine art.
Toss a couple of hook blades in your kit. You can control the depth of the cut you are making for removing the small pieces of the splinter that stay behind and fester into infection. Also good for cutting seatbelts and clothing, if you install the blade into a knife handle.
You can find them in any hardware section next to the utility blades, in packs of 5 or a 50 pack dispenser.
"liquid bandage" - same as liquid skin that is the stuff used to "glue" minor cuts?
Also read that some of the quick-clot stuff is shellfish based, and some people like my wife with shellfish allergies could have reactions. Any options that aren't shellfish-based?
The Wire Mesh is the stuff we used to make Rabbit cages out of. About a 1/4 inch squares of hole on the wire. Makes for a great splint, but needs padding to be effective for a longer term (more than 72 hours).
Liquid skin and liquid bandage are the same thing, I missed that in your list.
I do not think that the quick-clot stuff poses any danger. The stuff stays in the bandage as far as I know. An ER Nurse could tell you if they have any procedures or policies regarding this, or an EMT for that matter.
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i Have two types of kits
one is a range kit for trauma ( IE shootings) these are US individual medical kits, I have added a few different personal items to these, everyone in my family and extended family has these who shoots
they are 6545-01-094-8412 they are small and compact [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
the second kit is large
its a surplus german army kit this comes in a large metal box each family vehicle has one of these, funny thing the bandage packages are in german & english and they are made in the US. this kit was $24
both can be found at sportmans guide, what they lack can be pruchased at rite-aid/walgreens/ CVS
items like cold/heat packs, water purificatipn tables, cloting packs, etc
Cheaper than dirt has large varity of kits [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
also the solider first aid manual can be obtained for $12 in there is basic first aid manual a must
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For risk of some one losing an arm or leg, always mark a 'T' on the forehead of a victim in use of a tourniquet. If he passes out, he can't talk and the first responders need to know immediately.
Good stuff! I never thought about a "range trauma" situation but now that I think about it that would be something to consider. Accidents at the range do happen - youtube is full of shining examples of that!
I'm going to do some research on the proper uses of a tourniquet. I still don't think I have a good idea of when they are really of value other than snakebites. The snakebite situation makes use of one but as I recall the instructions indicate that it must be adjusted so blood flow is only restricted, not prevented.
- Smelling salts!
- Eye pads - aren't these just big round band-aids?
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I bought several Quick-clot for my first-aid kit years ago and only recently had a need to use it on a injury with a friend. I got to tell you this stuff is crazy good thing to have.
Rather expensive if you get the full mil spec ones but well worth it. He had a pretty bad cut was bleeding out bad... used this....he's still around and all better.
Lots of bandaids I seem to go through a lot of those with kids and being outdoorsy type of family. E-bay or Amazon good for bulk band-aids 3 X 100per box of 3/4 x 3in for 10 bucks and they are hospital quility.
Little surgical kits come in handy for more then just medical emergencies these are fairly cheap also on Ebay
just some thoughts
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