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Old 09-19-2008, 05:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Saiga 12 intrafuse stock system

Is this a viable option to spending money on having mine converted to a PG?

Thoughts?

Is there anyone here that will do a Saiga 12 Conversion? How much. I already have the parts.

thanks, just trying to compare.
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Old 09-19-2008, 06:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I wish I had a nickel for every time this question is asked.

1) Can you change the oil in your car?

2) Have you had wood or metal shop in high school?

3) Do you own a drill?

If you answered 'yes' to any of the above, you are qualified to convert your own Saiga.

It is about as difficult as opening a newfangled plastic blister pack.

YOU DO NOT WANT any stock that just bolts on. The balance will be way off and you'll tire of it quickly and start bad mouthing all of us who have balanced functional conversions.
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Old 09-19-2008, 08:04 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Up,

We just started a new forum on Saiga conversions located here.
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I'm going to move this to that forum
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Old 09-19-2008, 10:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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yep and now DPH is gonna do conversions.... very nice.
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Old 09-21-2008, 10:30 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I wish I had a nickel for every time this question is asked.

1) Can you change the oil in your car?

2) Have you had wood or metal shop in high school?

3) Do you own a drill?

If you answered 'yes' to any of the above, you are qualified to convert your own Saiga.

It is about as difficult as opening a newfangled plastic blister pack.

YOU DO NOT WANT any stock that just bolts on. The balance will be way off and you'll tire of it quickly and start bad mouthing all of us who have balanced functional conversions.

thanks for the answer,i think.
yeah, i can change my own oil but this is obviously not a car and requires more than just a drill and good luck for someone that has never attempted this before.
I'd wager that this advice is coming from someone that has a garage full of machine tools and years of home gunsmithing experience?

i dont feel comfortable doing metal work on a $600 firearm with no metalworking experience,"harry homeowner' power tools and the advice of a surly internet guru. i applaud you for your experience and comfort in this arena,but i will not take the chance of mauling a perfectly good weapon just so that i can say that i moved the fcg myself.
i would rather pay someone that i trust to do this so that i dont fuck it up.
i'll be sure to steer clear of the intrafuse stock,though
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Have you seen this thread?
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Up, I completely feel your pain! My very first AK conversion was my PRE-BAN Norinco converted to use a Russian folding stock! That was a really high pucker factor, because way back then I had a drill press, some cheap drill bits, and I had just bought this tool called a "dremel".

Chin up, you can do it if you really want to. There are a few things to remember when you're doing it, and if you go slow and "measure twice, cut once", you should be able to figure out everything you would need to.


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That said, let me comment on that stock!

I held one of those in my hands at the gun show yesterday.... OBSERVATIONS:

It felt solid. It was not "flimsy" like those other Tapco buttstocks. The sheer size of the parts make up for any deficiency of the plastic composite material. It won't be near any hot part on the rifle, so it should have no problem with heat. It felt like the same high-heat resistant material that my fancy kitchen utensils were made of. I think it had a fiber mix in the material...it felt like other fiber-infused objects I've handled. But not like fiberglass. Much lighter.

It felt like it would work well with any AR-style buttstock you wanted to put on it. It would give someone unwilling to jump into the deep end of the pool a pistol-grip conversion without worrying about a really long pull.

Will it stand up to bashing in a wood door with your buttstock? I don't know. I would not hesitate to use one of those for the kind of shooting anyone on these forums will do.

YMMV.
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Old 09-21-2008, 01:32 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I converted my buddies saiga!
Most of my 5 year olds "some assembly required" toys were way more difficult.
especially that damn transformer deathstar, I've got one thing to say about that star wars toy,,,, actually I can say it in one word,,,,,,,,,,,PULL!!!
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I'd wager that this advice is coming from someone that has a garage full of machine tools and years of home gunsmithing experience?
No, actually I'm a computer software developer.

I've done all my conversions with a dremel and a hammer and some other common garage tools. No machine shop, here ( I could only wish ).

Have you built an Ak from a kit? If so, you're so way over qualified to convert a Saiga.

You can visit the Saiga 12 forum and see for yourself all the folks who exclaim "I was skeered to do it, but afterwards I wondered why it took me so long."
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Ace Ltd makes a similar stock setup for the Saiga.
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