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I read some nonsense about them coming out with their own shotgun based on the Saiga design. Pretty useless as far as I can see, it's not like you can get a Saiga kit. Plus they have a real bad rep based on their infamous wraithmaker drum.
I just followed your link. It says something about them coming out with their own kits after the first of the year. Based on their previous train wreck with the drums, I'd still steer clear.
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The drums they manufacture are clunky, overcomplicated, cumbersome, and heavy as all getout. They're basically worthless, except for the fact that you pay $350 to get one.
Let's not forget that in order to get most shotguns to even function with one of their drums, You have to send them your shotgun for their $180 "reliability service" what a freakin' scam.
Let's not forget that in order to get most shotguns to even function with one of their drums, You have to send them your shotgun for their $180 "reliability service" what a freakin' scam.
. . . and let's not lose sight of the fact that when your shotgun comes back from 'relability service', it only works reliably with the wraithfaker. So much for your investment in AGP 10 rounders and factory mags . . .
Agree that their "tuning" process for the drums is... odd to say the least. I for one don't like the design that I saw since the ammunition is completely exposed to the environment. I suppose for that uber-cool "tactical entry" situation, it would be OK. I didn't realize they would not warrant their work with other items. That does sound over the top... modifying the gun to work only with a magazine.
I for one would welcome yet another US-built receiver, however if one is going to go the extra mile to build the other US parts for a shotty, then a receiver would be trivial.
NOW...
Looking at the receiver pics, I see a few concerns here.
- THAT LOGO IS HUGE! They are guaranteeing that you will be stuck with the AR-style folding mechanism, or have to re-stamp the receiver elsewhere, ala OOW receivers, and have a cut-up logo that you would need to bondo over to look 'good'. Yuck.
- Their "concept" picture implies an AR-style operating rod. I'm guessing they are going to attempt to make a competitor for the AA-12. "ATTEMPT".
- What's the deal with the laser-etched lettering? Do we need a SN and SAFE/FIRE lettering pattern that is about 1/2" tall?!?
- Why keep the original Saiga-style trigger location? Other than Kali-compliance?
- It appears to be either their prototyping results OR they are planning to get into the shotgun building as a full-time endeavor. That could be interesting.
If however their receiver is tuned only to THEIR magazines, then that would be an unfortunate decision since their target market would shrink significantly. It is obvious that the 10-rounders on the market are here to stay, so they need to play WITH the other kids on the playground, not against them.
It is interesting that the wording of their advert implies they are working on all the parts now, and you simply need to "mail it back" to them to build. It seems like they are trying to generate revenue with the receivers as the "down payment" for their longer-term fabrication projects.
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Saiga 12 U.S. receivers ?
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