IIRC the USCG worked side by side with Polish GROM teams to take the oil platforms in Basra.
And where exactly do you get the idea that I "basically just shit all over thousands of coasties that died serving their country". Did you not see the part where I said "Not much of a distinction really because they have fought in damn near every conflict we have been involved in since their inception and their service has matched that of every branch under the DOD". How exactly is that shitting on the service of others. Maybe you didn't know this but police that are killed in the line of duty are not military but paramilitary and I am not disrespecting their service either. Same can be said about the firefighters and other emergency workers and I honor them as well. I will also add that our civilian intelligence (paramilitary) and federal law enforcement workers who are currently overseas on the front lines of the current war on terrorism are most definately not military either and that does not in any way diminish their service. Is it somehow a slight to the DOD civilian or CIA contractor killed in the service to country to point out that they were a civilian?
If anyone here can show me how it is that I supposedly dishonored the Coast Guard I would like to see it.
So if someone is commisioned with the NOAA or the Public Health Corps are they a part of the military too? That makes no sense. I believe both services can be 'militarized' by executive order in a state of emergency but that is an exception and not the general rule.
The Coast Guard has a military mission and I have never said otherwise but as our JAG explained it (and maybe he was oversimplifying for the masses) they were not a part of the military because that would violate the Posse Comitatus Act. That, he said, is why they were under (at the time) the DOT. Like I said, he may have over simplified things and he may even have allowed his ego get involved in some imaginary DOD/DOT territorial dispute but that would seem out of character for him. I personally don't claim to be an expert, I am just a lowly enlisted Intel NCO and Military Police instructor, I only base this on what the JAG has told me in conversation.
Normally I wouldn't care enough to look into it but since I am currently in the ass crack of Afghanistan (as a civilian this time even though I am still an NCO in the National Guard) I might look into it when the ISP here is having a good day. If you still think I have disrespected anyone you are as wrong as two boys kissing.
Are you always abusive and hostile over what is at best a minor misunderstanding Kyle? That wouldn't be very respectful of others and yet you claim to value respect so much.
Way to much energy being wasted here,we are on the same side,RIGHT?
If anyone doubts the status of the Coasties, read the information below:
"Five of the uniformed services make up the armed forces, four of which are within the Department of Defense. The Coast Guard has both military and law enforcement duties, and is currently under the control of the Department of Homeland Security; however, Title 14 of the U.S. Code states that the Coast Guard is part of the military at all times. It is therefore the only branch of the military not under the control of the Department of Defense, at least in peacetime; during war, control of the Coast Guard passes to the Department of the Navy if Congress declares war or at the request of the President.  The Commandant of the Coast Guard reports directly to the Secretary of Homeland Security. The commissioned corps of the US Public Health Service and NOAA Commissioned Corps operate under military rules with the exception of the applicability of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, to which they are subject when militarized by executive order or while detailed to any component of the armed forces."
There - according to Title 14 of USC, they are military AT ALL TIMES.
Now can we get back to discussing / fretting about the oncoming United Socialist States of America ???
Just to add a point - our troop does overnighters on CV-10, USS Lexington, often. The Lex's evening program has a 'salute to veterans'. During this program the services' flags are paraded and all veterans of that branch are asked to come on stage to be recognized. The USCG flag is always included with the usual four and Coasties are recognized with their brethren in the other branches.
Damnit nkuluksda, thank you. And sorry to everyone else for contributing to that "off subject" being dragged out WAY longer than it had to be.