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#1 ·
Romney said, "When I'm elected, I will put Americans back to work,"
and 51% said, "The Hell With That!!"

These are not my words........they belong to the 51%...........
 
#3 ·
I love layman's terms.
 
#5 ·
51% WANT TO GET A MUCH AS THEY CAN WITH AS LITTLE OR NO WORK AS POSSABLE AN THEY DONT CARE IF IT DESTROYS THE COUNTRYS FUTURE BY DOING SO. THEY DONT CARE WHAT THERE KIDS WILL PAY.

I UNDER STAND SOME OF THERE THINKING THERE BROKE UNEMPLOYED AN SEE NO HOPE THERE VOTING FOR ANYTHING TO MAKE THERE LIVES BETTER ASAP. MAY ARE GETTING BENNIFETS, HEALTH CARE AN FOOD. ITS HARD TO TELL SOME ONE TO GOT DO A SHIT JOB ALL DAY TO COME HOME WITH ABOUT $5 MORE INTHER EPOCKET THAN IF THEY WERE OFF DOING OTHER STUFF AN NOT WORKING. MANY GIVE UP INSURANCE , FOOD, ETC AS SOON AS THEY START MAKING NOT ENOUGHT TO GET BY BY WORKING SO THEY FIGURE WHY EVEN BOTHER TRYING.

WE NEED TO QUICLY WEEN THESE PEOPLE OFF THE GOVERMENT TIT. THEY NEED JOBS THAT WILL GET THEM AHEAD OF WERE THERE AT NOW. WHO WANTS TO GOT TO WORK TO SUPORT THE PEOPLE THEY WERE????????????????????????/
 
#8 · (Edited)


And no other "Conservative" Republican could win for the same reasons. The moderate Republican base would never vote for a Santorum, Gingrich, etc or any "Conservative". If you can't get the two sides to work together to defeat a Communist then the Republican Party should just close up shop and dissolve the party altogether. Maybe split into two or three parties. We already have "conservative" parties like the Constitution Party and the "Libertarian Party". Even had populists like Ross Perot that gave the presidency to Bill Clintoon, not once but twice.

Romney did hurt himself by swatting away the hands of the Tea Party and Libertarian wings when they extended a proverbial "olive branch". When they should have come together, all sides just squabbled instead of worked to unseat the Communist-in Chief. We really do get the government we deserve in the end. We did this to ourselves and we deserve every fecking ounce of pain that is inflicted upon us as a result.

Which is why I have been prepping for a long time. I am fortunate enough to go off the radar and go "off grid" if necessary and stop contributing to the tax base - stop "feeding the beast". I am perfectly capable to letting America collapse into chaos and societal collapse. I guess what I'm saying is that I'm just too tired to fight it anymore and I have thrown in the towel. I won't be wasting my time voting in rigged elections rife with voter fraud, with mediocre candidates, turncoats, etc. It's obvious that the Republican Party is effectively finished. We had our "Red Pill - Blue Pill" moment and we collectively chose the "Blue Pill".

The culture of the "New America" is now swiftly turning sharply to the socialist left and the majority of the people desire a Nanny State. They can have it as I am closing in on my final days anyway and will be beyond caring. Sometimes you just have to call it quits and laugh at the absurdities of life. America had its last chance this last election and they threw it all away for more "free stuff" (love those "Obama Phones").

We never learn from history and what we are seeing in America is the final stages of "The Fall of Rome" all over again when the people raided and plunder the treasury, taxed the rich into being poor, and were content with "bread and circusses" as the Roman Republic collapsed around them only to be replaced with an authoritarian emperical government.
 
#9 ·
neither president would enforce the constitution, and thats alll that matters to myself. personally i believe not awhole lot would have changed if Romney won. All roads lead to Rome. Until a candidate rises up whom pledges his allegiance to the constitution and will actually defend it. I will not care for presidential candidates.
 
#10 · (Edited)
Unbelievable. over and over you so called patriotic Americans are willing, it seems eager infact, for collapse of the country you supposedly love to occur.

I don't care how good of a prepper you are, how secure you believe your home base, cabin, bunker, or whatever is, if others want it they will take it away from you. Once the hordes leave the cities and work their way into the rural areas your desire for collapse will take on a different light. Especially if TOTAL collapse occurs and the military collapses right along with it and soon you have roving bands of military troops with their own tanks and helicopters. How many of you preppers can stop one M1A1 Abrams tank coming up to your "Secure Location" let alone 2 or 3 or even 10 being operated by renegade military troops? How many can shoot down an attack helicopter, let alone 2 or 3 as they pound your secure location? Or how many of you could hold off a dozen or so determined attackers? See it is all well and good to believe you are bullet proof when you talk about a handful of ill prepared or ill equipped stragglers attempting to take your stuff, and another completely when you are talking about heavily armed and well trained military personnel, or a mass attack by heavily armed civilians.

Frankly, as dissatisfied as I am with the state of affairs of the country I DO Love, I would never wish to see collapse of that country to prove a political point.
 
#12 ·
Unbelievable. over and over you so called patriotic Americans are willing, it seems eager infact, for collapse of the country you supposedly love to occur.

I don't care how good of a prepper you are, how secure you believe your home base, cabin, bunker, or whatever is, if others want it they will take it away from you. Once the hordes leave the cities and work their way into the rural areas your desire for collapse will take on a different light. Especially if TOTAL collapse occurs and the military collapses right along with it and soon you have roving bands of military troops with their own tanks and helicopters. How many of you preppers can stop one M1A1 Abrams tank coming up to your "Secure Location" let alone 2 or 3 or even 10 being operated by renegade military troops? How many can shoot down an attack helicopter, let alone 2 or 3 as they pound your secure location? Or how many of you could hold off a dozen or so determined attackers? See it is all well and good to believe you are bullet proof when you talk about a handful of ill prepared or ill equipped stragglers attempting to take your stuff, and another completely when you are talking about heavily armed and well trained military personnel, or a mass attack by heavily armed civilians.


Frankly, as dissatisfied as I am with the state of affairs of the country I DO Love, I would never wish to see collapse of that country to prove a political point.
That's equipment. I know in the Marine Corps on average it takes 12 Marines just to support one ground pounder infantry guy. Not to mention maintain equipment. It takes a lot to got a tank down the road or a chopper off the ground. I know in my circles we would band together and get as many under our protective arms as possible. Swearing an oath to Uphold and defend the Constitution to many of us doesn't mean defend a piece of paper. But who knows? Either way Fyred Up have you ever seen Black Blade's preps??? F'ing wicked man... If it ever hits the fan I'm going to wander the streets asking if anybody knows Black Blade... :lol:
 
#11 ·
Hey, FU. You had better sharpen up on your reading skills. I did not see one sentence in this thread where someone said they were willing or eagerly looking for collapse. The closest to it might be Mr. Blade recognition of our country replaying the last days of Rome
I doubt very much if any of the 'preppers' here view their prepping any differently than any of us view our insurance. Really don't want to use it , but DAMNED sure gonna have it.
As for the several skills yiou questioned in your post; I and any of the other 19 in our group of Extraordinary Gentlemen, can do any one of those things. We gather several times a month concentrating on woodsmanship, marksmanship, fitness and tactics. We are not the pot-bellied nitwits one sees on the news calling themselves 'Militias'. Fourteen of us have seen the elephant and the other six had to pass a test that anyone on this board would say would make them worthy.
I'm sixty years old and turned in passing times on confidence and infiltration courses until I was 45. I can still do a 7 minute mile in street clothes. The other gentlemen in our group of my generation are basically the same level.
As for a desire for collapse; When I get up tomorrow, after a short workout, I'll go nextdoor with some fresh white whiskey and see if my neighbors Black Cherry flavored ale is ready for sipping. I also wish to be doing this 15 years from now.
Collapse? Don't want it, ain't looking for it, but damn sure ready for it.
Hunter
 
#13 ·
Look if you are saying your group can take out Abrams tanks and attack helicopters I have to say sorry I am not buying it. Maybe 1 tank, or one helicopter, but not multiples.

As for the physical shape of yourself and those in your group I would say with 100% certainty that you are the exception not the rule.

I for damn sure don't want a collapse, whether economic, societal, or governmental. I see the visions that people have of what will occur if a collapse happens, and their belief that they will be prepared for anything that will come their way, and I believe that those ideas are completely delusional if a complete collapse occurs. Look at the mayhem that occurs during the aftermath of a hurricane, or a blackout, or any other disaster and multiply that by a billion and that is total collapse.

I am as ready as I can be, but I have no illusions about being able to hold out against multiple attackers repeatedly attacking me forever, or against superior technology or armaments. Frankly, I prep for more realistic scenarios like I have stated in other topics, like my wife's breats cancer, or a storm that may shut everything down for days or weeks. It doesn't meant that I am incapable of holding off looters for a while, but not indefinitely.

Honestly, spending thousands or millions of dollars on multiple bug out locations, bunkers, millions of rounds of ammunition, food for 5 or 10 years, and so on makes no sense for me at all. I would not tell anyone else how to spend their time or money, or how to prep, I am just talking about how I see things for me and my situation.
 
#15 ·
back to the point..
Mitty is a RINO, that is why he lost.
As was McCain and McCain got more votes.. than ROMY.. but he was a looser of a pic..from the start.... as soon as he was the R nomination I knew he'd fail. and he ran a terrible campaign.. on top of being a old RICH (filthy rich) white Morman.. sorry but it's over before it began.. b2b
 
#16 ·
back to the point..
As was McCain and McCain got more votes.. than ROMY.. but he was a looser of a pic..from the start.... as soon as he was the R nomination I knew he'd fail. and he ran a terrible campaign.. on top of being a old RICH (filthy rich) white Morman.. sorry but it's over before it began.. b2b
Just goes to show that over 5 million "alleged" conservative Republicans who didn't vote are in reality just parasites. They preferred a Communist "Community Organizer" over a Free Market Capitalist with a proven track record of turning around failed companies and events (Olympics). They are in reality the "Fifth Columnists" we were warned about since the 1950s. I have no respect and no use for such treasonous bastards. I hope they get exactly what they voted for (they voted for Obamunism by not voting). In fact I hope they get everything they voted for to the fullest extent possible.

Fortunately I can go off grid and live the rest of my days fishing and hunting but the America we grew up in is gone forever. We had our last chance. I am done with the Repuke Party myself as I see no point in wasting my time voting from this point onward. We are simply outnumbered and out manuevered as the majority of Americans become wards of the state. In short the Repuke Party is finished - they drove a stake through its heart and buried it once and for all. Game over as it appears we are on the fast track to a Communist form of Authoritarianism. Game Over.
 
#17 ·
Polls just came out and 16.6 Million blacks voted this year (300,000 more than in 2008), 11 Million Hispanics this year (1.7 Million more than in 2008) and 91.6 Million whites this year (7 Million LESS than 2008). This was due to the lack of the elderly vote which only made up 16% of the vote which was way lower than expected and it was the only demographic that Obama was way behind on (Polls had him down by 15 points amongst elderly).

Point is just a little nugget showing the above stated comments are right on the mark. Many of the way right conservatives stayed home most likey due to the belief of Mitt Romney being too moderate.
 
#20 ·
Well Romney got 57% of the 91.6 Million whites who voted bringing him to 48,548,000 votes roughly by white voters. 80% of blacks and hispanics combined went to Obama so the remaining 20% of the total 27.6 Million votes cast by both demographics leaves Romney with 5,520,000 votes from the blacks and hispanics bringing his rough total of 54,068,000 which is about what his total of votes was.

Disclaimer: these numbers are rounded because I came up in the Kalifornia Public School System, but they are pretty close.

I had a hard time believing them too man, but this is how they read. there is no doubt though that the addition of 5 million votes to those numbers may have swayed a few states and definitely given Romney the popular vote.
 
#19 ·
Thanks to Demonrats, Fifth Columnists and Turncoat Repukes the Victors have attained their goal



We had our last shot at it and the people turned down freedom and liberty because it requires personal responsibility. We do get the government we deserve in the end.
 
#22 ·
the majority of people where i worked sided against romney. key words there, they didn't necessarily like obama but they despised romney. big fat cat multi-millionaire who wants to cut taxes on the top end. you think anyone making 25k or 35k gives 2 shits about someone making 5 or 10 million and his 'problems' cause his taxes might go up a few points ?
 
#23 ·
Although that is a belief of many that even I know the fact of the matter is no matter how much money you have you vote is worth the same as everybody else. Nobody tells you how to vote, it's a choice and even my dumber friends saw the clarity in the election choice. The two sides could not have been more opposite one another. Freedoms vs. Free Stuff. If people choose not to vote for people because they are rich and out of touch with the majority of America, then niether one of the two should have gotten any votes. All I know about both Candidates is this... What we are shown about both of them is a lot different than what's truly there.
 
#25 ·
That third party is one that needs to have the best of the right: 1) Support of the 2nd Ammendment, 2) Hard on crime, 3) Supports a fiscally sound but still strong military, 4) Protects our borders, 5) Protects individual freedoms of our citizens by following the constitution

But it also needs some of the best of the left: 1) Sound, fiscal, limited social welfare for those TRULY in need with a weaning off of welfare of those whose cheat, steal, and destroy our country by being parasites. 2) Protects the rights of workers.

It will never happen because money talks and that is what truly rules the country.
 
#26 ·
That third party is one that needs to have the best of the right: 1) Support of the 2nd
Ammendment, 2) Hard on crime, 3) Supports a fiscally sound but still strong military, 4) Protects our borders, 5) Protects individual freedoms of our citizens by following the constitution

But it also needs some of the best of the left: 1) Sound, fiscal, limited social welfare for those TRULY in need with a weaning off of welfare of those whose cheat, steal, and destroy our country by being parasites. 2) Protects the rights of workers.
SOUNDS GOOD BUT YOU NEED 51% OF THE PEOPLE TO NOT BE CROOKS OR PARASITES AN THAT IS GETTING HARDER AN HARDER WITH THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION GROWING THEM EVERY DAY. THE MRE UNEMPOYMENT THERE IS THE LESS PEOPLE ARE GPING TO VOTE FOR LOSS OF FREEBEIES AN HELP.

DOING THE RIGHT THING VS TAKING THE EASY ROAD IS GETTING HARDER AN HARDER EVERY DAY FOR MILLIONS.
 
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