We'll just have to have a difference of opinion then. My original post was about dorners means didn't justify the end and with that I will let others argue the rest.
We'll just have to have a difference of opinion then. My original post was about dorners means didn't justify the end and with that I will let others argue the rest.
HMMM I AGREE WITH YOU IF HE COMMITTTED THESE CRIMES.Quote:
He got what he had comming to him. Lets say that everything he said in his ramblings from getting in trouble in kindergarden to the LAPD conspiring against him are absolutely true. He killed the daughter and boyfriend of a LAPD officer who had most likely never met dorner. Then he shot two officers in a neighboring town killing one. Then he again shot two sheriffs deputies killing one. If his beef was with LAPD he didn't harm one of it's members and didn't have the balls to kill the person he blamed the most so he went after that guys kids like a chicken shit coward. Is there still corruption?...absolutely in every branch of government. What makes dorner so special? The guy was a nut and wanted to get attention through his tantrum. It's just too bad that the 4+? dead and the half dozen innocent people injured through this incident were ever even harmed.
HOWEVER ILL SAY THIS THERE IS SOME THING WRONG HERE VERY WRONG EVEN IF HE IS GUILTY .
ASIDE FROM THE MEDA SAYING HE DID WHAT PROOF IS THERE HE DID ANYTHING??????? AN ITS THE LAPD WHO FEED THE MEDIA THE STORY . ID LIKE TO HAVE SEEN HIM TAKEN ALIVE AN THE OBVIOUS SHOOT FIRST ASK QUESTIONS LATER TACTICS REALLY RAISES SOME SUSPICION .
YEA HES LIKELY A NUT BUT HOW DO WE KNOW??? THE LAPD HAS BEEN CAUGHT IN NUMERIOUS COVER UPS AN SCAMS. I HAVE A SUSPICIION HE KNEW A LOT OF CROOKED STUFF LAPD HAS DONE. THE LAPD WAS LITTELAY SHOOTNG MOVING CSRS WITH WOMEN IN THEM. SERIUOSLY WHEN ELSE DOES THIS HAPPEN???? THIS IS CRAP GANGS DO. SO IF A LAPD OFFICER SAYS A GUY IS A KILLER DO THEY HAVE THE ROGHT TO STRT SHOOTNG CARS NO QUESTIONS ASKED . HELL HOW DO WE KNOW ANYTHING IS TRUE???????? THE LAPD WENT TO VERY VERY EXTREAMS TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THIS GUY NEVER SPOKE TO ANY ONE. THEY DONT EVEN SHOOT KNNOWN GANG MEMABERS WHO HAVE SHOT COPS LIKE THIS.
I HAVE A SERIOUS ISSUE HAVING THE VERY MEN HE IS REPORTADLY IS AFTER AN HAS A VENDETA AGAINS AN THE SAME DEPARTMENT THAT SHOT AT LEAST 3 INOCENT PEOLE WITH ZERO ATTENTION TO PROCEDURE OR THE LAW BEING BROGHT INTO A SITUATION WERE HE IS SUSPOSEDLY BARACADED INTO A CABIN .
I SERIOUSLY THINK ANY CHANCES OF HIM COMING OUT AN SURENDERING WITH HE LAPD THERE BY WHAT APPEARS TO BE THE PERMISSION OF THE SHERRIF DEPARTMENT WHO HAS JURISIDICTION IS ABOUT ZERO.
WHY WOULD ANY LAWENFORCEMNT AGENCY CALL IN A DEPARTMENT THAT ARE OVER ZELIOUSNES TO KILL THIS GUY WITH NO QUESTIONS ASKED WHO HAS ALREADY LEAD TO INICENTS BEING SHOT WITH ZERO PROBABLE CAUSE?????????????
AGAIN WHY DID THE LAPD NEED TO BE OUT OF THE CITY OF LA?????????????? THERE ARE AT LEAST A DOZEN OTHER AGENCYS WHO COULD HAVE ASSISTED INSTEAD THEY BRING IN THE ONE GROUP THAT THEY KNOW THIS GUY IS SUSPOSEDLY GOING TO KILL ON SITE! THER ONE GROUP THAT WAS SHOOTING AT ANY THING THAT MOVED WITH OUT EVEN TRYING TO ASK IF IT WAS HIM. LAPS DEALS WITH KILLERS EVERY DAY AN DONT FIRE ON MOVING CARS WITH WOMEN IN THEM AN RAM TRUCKS AN SHOT THE DRIVERS HOW IS THIS PERMISSABLE FOR THE LAPD NOW??????? ONCE THE SUSPOECT LEFT THE CITY THE LAPD SHOULD HAVE BEEN RELIEVED FRIOMT HE CASE ESPECIALY SINCE THERE WERE ACCUSATIONS BEING MADE BY THE SUSPECT ABOUT THERE CONDUCT AN POSSABLE GUILT OF CRIMES.
EVEN IF HE HAD DONE WHAT HE IS ACCUSED OF LAPS HAD NO RIGHT TO ACT THE WAY THERY DID AN NO RIGHT TO BE AT THE CABIN IMO .
IN THIS CASE ID LIKE TO HAVE SEEN THE MAN TAKEN ALIVE. I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE HIM QUESTIONED IN A TRAIL. IT DOSENT SOUND LIKE THERE WAS ANY NEGOSATIONS OR ATTEMPOTS TO HEAR ANYHTING FROM THIS SUSPECT ( MAYBE IM WRONG ) . THERE LUCKY THEY EVEN GOT THE RIGHT GUY CONSIDERING THEY HAD SCREWD IT UP AT LEAST THREE OTHER TIMES. AN IF THE RUMMORS ARE TRUE OF LAPD IN MEXICO THEN THAT NEED TO BE ADRESSED ALSO.
LETS SEE IF THE COPS WHO SHOT MOVING CARS AN RAMMED TRUCKS AN THEN SHOT THE DRIVERS KEEP THERE JOBS????????????????????????
I DONT THINK FOR A SECOND THE CABIN CAUGHT FIRE BY ACCIDENT. I SUSPECT THE THE MEDIA WAS REMOVED FROM THE SCENE POLICE DASH CAMS WERE TURNED OFF AN THE CABIN WAS SET ON FIRE. IF HE WAS IN THERE WERE THE HELL WAS HE GOING ???????????? WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME ANY POLICE ANGENCY IMEADITALY JUST WENT IN AFTER A SUSPECT USUALY THEY SAND AROUND WITHT HERE DICKS IN THERE HANDS TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO.
HOW LONG FROM THER TIME THE LAPD GOT THERE AN THE CABIN WAS ON FIRE???????
UNLESS HE SET FORE TO THE CABIN AN KILLED HIM SELF I THINK THERE IS SOME EXPLAANING TO DO.
I KNOW VICTOMS OF THE LAPD AN ID TRUST LAPD LESS THAN THE MEDIA IF THERE NAMES WERE AT STAKE .
SO IN A STAND OFF LIKE THIS WERE THERE ARE TONS OF LEO PRESCANCE WHY IS THERE NO VIDEO OF WHAT HAPPENS YOU WPOULD THINK IN THIS DAY AN AGE AN THE SCRUTINY OF THE PUPLIC ESPECIALY REGUARDING THE LAPD THERE OULD EB VIDEO TAKEN BY LEOS????????????????????
IF THE LAPD WANTED TO COME OUT LOOKIG GOOD THEY WOULD HAVE COAUGHT THIS GUY ON CAMERA PROVING HE WAS GIVEN EVERY CHANCE INSTEAD IT WNET DOWN LIKE EVERY SINGLE PERSON PREDICTED HE WAS KILLED WITH NO EVIDENCE OF HOW.
YOU COULD NOT WRITE A MOVIE ANY BETTER .
I could write a movie better... CRAM-BRO... but I agree, way fishy... I'm in total agreement.. on that.. I hope the media holds the LAPD's feet to the fire on the mistaken shooting...and some people get fired... at the top.... B2B
If that woman LAPD officer had been held accountable after giving the retard a boot party...none of this would have happened... Dorner would be working as a LAPD police officer right now and only people getting the shaft would be the citizens of LA... B2BQuote:
They shouldn't be held accountable for their actions since Dorner made them do it?
BY the WAY IN the police Academy there is a Training block where you must turn you partner in if he uses excessive force on a handcuffed prisoner...or you fail the part of the academy....
They claimed his ID was found down by the Mexican border near he failed to steal a boat.
Now they claim to have found his ID on the charred body. Readable of course.
He took Ash Wednesday a little too far, didn't he?
HMMMM THE CABIN LOOKS LIKE IT BURNT TO THE GROUND YET THERE IS A READLBE ID??? I SUSPSE ITS POSSABLE. BUT FISHY. I WASNET AWARE THERE WAS A SHOOT OUT AT THE CABIN WHEN IO WROTE MY LAST POST BTW. APPARENTY TOW DEPUTIES MANAGED TO GEWT SHO AN ONE KILLED??? YOU FISH AN GAME CHASING THE GUY AN EXCHANGING GUN FIRE WTF ???????? THINGS JSUT SEEM TO NICELY PACKAGED BY THE MEDIA AN A LOT OF PEOLE SENCE THIS .
BTW MOLEMAN NO DISRESPECT TO YOU IM JUST ASKING QUESTONS IN GENREAL I HOPE YOU DONT FEEL ATTACTED NOT MY INTENT. .
WERE IS THE AIR COVERAGE THE NEWS CAMERAS THE LEO DASH VIDEOS ?????
I DIONT GET IT YOU GOT THE GUY BARACADED IN CABIN HOW DO YO MANAGE TO GET TWO DEPUTIES SHOT ??????? THIS GUY IS DANGERIOUS AN YOU KNOW HE IS IN THERE AN YO HAVE ARMORED VEHICLE BUT YOU HAVE GUYS STILL GETTING SHOT ?????
IF THE GUY WAS AS BAD AS REPORTED ( AN LIKELY IS ) WNHY WOULD YOU BE IN A SHOOT OUT WITH HIM?????????? SOME ONE SCREWD UP HUGE AN PAID WITH THERE LIFE.
IF GUILTY AN HE LIKELY IS IN GLAD THEY GOT HIM BUT HOLLY GRAP ITS KEYSTONE COPS HERE. WE GOT WOMEN BEIG SHOT TRUCKS RAMMED GAMEWARDENS CHASING HIM CAR CRASHES . BARCADED CABINS, SHOOT OUTS FIRES AN ONE LONE SHOT AS THE CABIN BUREND DOWN WERE WE HEAR HE KILLED HIMSELF.
ID LIKED TO HAVE SEEN A TRIAL WERE HE RATTED OUT LAPD PEOPLE AS HE WENT DOWN FOR CRIMES.
BTW IF THIS GUY HAD MADE IT TO RETIREMNET HE WOULD BE ALLOWED ASSULT WEAPONS UNDER FIENSTIENS LAW. LMFAO THE FACT HE IS NUTS AN WAS RECENTKLY A LAW ENFORCEMTN OFFICER IS SCARY . HOW MANY MORE ARE THERE LIKE HIM ??????
APPARENTLY HE WAS HIDDING OUT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE COMMAND CNETER FOR THE SEARCH THEY NEVER THOUGH TO CHECK THAT CABIN ?????????????????
ALSO WHO THE HELL STEELS A PURPLE CAR AS A GET AWAY VEHICLE LIKE THAT NOT GOING TO BE HARD TO SPOT IN A PARKING LOT YIKES DUMB ASS. HE SHOULD HAVE STOLE A GREEN CAR. LOL
Christopher Dorner License: Driver's ID Found Alongside Burnt Body In Cabin
The Associated Press | By TAMI ABDOLLAH AND GILLIAN FLACCUS Posted: 02/13/2013 9:54 am EST | Updated: 02/13/2013 2:18 pm EST
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BIG BEAR LAKE, Calif. (AP) -- An official briefed on the investigation tells The Associated Press that a wallet with a California driver's license with the name Christopher Dorner has been found in the rubble of a cabin.
A charred body was also found inside after a shootout and fire.
Authorities believe the remains are those of the former Los Angeles police officer, but they have not been formally identified.
The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation and says the charred body and personal items were found in the basement of the burned cabin. The area is in the San Bernardino Mountains east of Los Angeles.
Two sheriff's deputies were also shot, one fatally. Dorner is also suspected of earlier killing a young couple and a police officer, and wounding two other officers.
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.
As police scoured mountain peaks for days, using everything from bloodhounds to high-tech helicopters, the revenge-seeking ex-cop they wanted was hiding among them, holed up in a vacation cabin across the street from their command post.
It was there that Christopher Dorner apparently took refuge last Thursday, four days after beginning a deadly rampage that would claim four lives.
The search ended Tuesday when a man believed to be Dorner bolted from hiding, stole two cars, barricaded himself in a vacant cabin and mounted a last stand in a furious shootout in which he killed one sheriff's deputy and wounded another before the building erupted in flames.
He never emerged from the ruins and hours later a charred body was found inside.
"We have reason to believe that it is him," San Bernardino County sheriff's spokeswoman Cynthia Bachman said.
Dorner, 33, had said in a lengthy rant police believe he posted on Facebook that he expected to die in one final, violent confrontation with police, and if it was him in the cabin that's just what happened.
The apparent end came very close to where his trail went cold six days earlier when his burning pickup truck - with guns and camping gear inside - was abandoned with a broken axle on a fire road in the San Bernardino National Forest near the ski resort town of Big Bear Lake.
His footprints led away from the truck and vanished on frozen soil.
With no sign of him and few leads, police offered a $1 million reward to bring him to justice and end a "reign of terror" that had more than 50 families of targeted Los Angeles police officers under round-the-clock protection after he threatened to bring "warfare" to the LAPD, officers and their kin.
Just a few hours after police announced Tuesday that they had fielded more than 1,000 tips with no sign of Dorner, word came that a man matching his description had tied up two people in a Big Bear Lake cabin, stole their car and fled. Authorities didn't immediately give more details on the two people.
Game wardens from the California Department of Fish and Wildlife who were part of the search detail spotted the purple Nissan that had been reported stolen going in the opposite direction and gave chase, department spokesman Lt. Patrick Foy said. The driver looked like Dorner.
They lost the purple car after it passed a school bus and turned onto a side road, but two other Fish and Wildlife patrols turned up that road a short time later, and were searching for the car when a white pickup truck sped erratically toward the wardens.
"He took a close look at the driver and realized it was the suspect," Foy said.
Dorner, who allegedly stole the pickup truck at gunpoint after crashing the first car, rolled down a window and opened fire on the wardens, striking a warden's truck more than a dozen times.
One of the wardens shot at the suspect as he rounded a curve in the road. It's unclear if he hit him, but the stolen pickup careened off the road and crashed in a snow bank. Dorner then ran to the cabin where he barricaded himself and got in a shootout with San Bernardino County sheriff's deputies and other officers who arrived.
Two deputies were shot, one fatally.
A SWAT team surrounded the cabin and used an armored vehicle to break out the cabin windows, said a law enforcement official who requested anonymity because the investigation was ongoing. The officers then lobbed tear gas canisters into the cabin and blasted a message over a loudspeaker: "Surrender or come out."
The armored vehicle then tore down each of the cabin's four walls.
A single shot was heard inside before the cabin was engulfed in flames, the law enforcement official told The Associated Press.
Until Tuesday, authorities weren't sure Dorner was still in Big Bear Lake, where his pickup was found within walking distance from the cabin where he hid.
Even door-to-door searches failed to turn up any trace of him in the quiet, bucolic neighborhood where children were playing in the snow Tuesday night.
With many searchers leaving town amid speculation he was long gone, the command center across the street was taken down Monday.
Ron Erickson, whose house is only about quarter mile away, said officers interrogated him to make sure he wasn't being held hostage. Erickson himself had been keeping a nervous watch on his neighborhood, but he never saw the hulking Dorner.
"I looked at all the cabins that backed the national forest and I just didn't think to look at the one across from the command post," he said. "It didn't cross my mind. It just didn't."
Police said Dorner began his run on Feb. 6 after they connected the slayings of a former police captain's daughter and her fiance with his angry manifesto.
Dorner blamed LAPD Capt. Randal Quan for providing poor representation before the police disciplinary board that fired him for filing a false report.
Dorner, who is black, claimed in his online rant that he was the subject of racism by the department and was targeted for doing the right thing.
Chief Charlie Beck, who initially dismissed Dorner's allegations, said he would reopen the investigation into his firing - not to appease the ex-officer, but to restore confidence in the black community, which had a long fractured relationship with police that has improved in recent years.
Dorner vowed to get even with those who had wronged him as part of his plan to reclaim his good name.
"You're going to see what a whistleblower can do when you take everything from him especially his NAME!!!" the rant said. "You have awoken a sleeping giant."
Within hours of being named as a suspect in the killings, the 6-foot, 270-pounder described as armed and "extremely dangerous," tried unsuccessfully to steal a boat in San Diego to flee to Mexico. After leaving a trail of evidence, he headed north where he opened fire on two patrol cars in Riverside County, shooting three officers and killing one.
With a description of his car broadcast all over the Southwest and Mexico, he managed to get to the mountains 80 miles east of Los Angeles where his burning truck was found.
Only a short distance from the truck, he spent his final days with a front-row seat to the search mobilized right outside.
Gun battle with wanted ex-cop - caught on tape - CBS News Video
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HOLLY CRAP THERE HAD TO BE 5000 ROUNDS FIRED LOTS OF FULL AUTO.
ALL THIS TO GET ONE GUY OUT OF A CABIN ?????? I GUESS .
I LKED THE PART WERE THEY GUY CANT GET HIS BACK PACK ON WAS HE GOING CAMPING ?????????
HWAT DID OBAMA SAY ABOUT COPS BEING OUT GUNNED ????? DONT LOOK LIKE IT TO ME.
GLAD ITS OVER .
The interview with the folks that owned the cabin kinda concerned me though,,
They said that he told them he didn't want to hurt them , and just wanted to clear his name????? What to hell does that mean??
Are we missing something ,,or,,,, is there more to this story here????? Bet we don't hear that one again, wanna bet?? SWOOSH,,,under the rug!
A couple of things don't add up to me though. Just saying.
Bye the way ,,,, did anyone notice all the sloppy tactics at the beginning and most of the way through that operation BTW??? WTF,,,, I wouldn't have made it a week in Nam that way,,,, good Lord!! spray and pray,,,advance in a line,,,,bunched up,,,,line of fire open from the target when not advancing,,,,,,you got to be kidding me!
Ya got one fucking guy,,trained (maybe),,, use your head! Shoot straight and use proper tactics . They broke every rule in the book. A couple guys engaging from cover that can really shoot, quarantine tango's muzzle blast, and snipe him,,, simple. FUBAR,,, IMO!
And I only looked at the video once and noticed all that, I'm sure I could point out more if I really looked.
And YES I Have been in combat, no maul ninja chit here brother, I'm talking from experience. For those of you new guys that don't know me.
Fucking amateurs IMO !! Very sloppy. Look closely again if you don't believe me.