Well I got one! Same model as in the picture - the 60DS (6" barrel). Got it for a good deal along with some speed loader stuff and a cheap scope.
adamk222 you're missing the point. The new design provides some improvements to shooting a revolver. Read that review I linked to and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Anyway, Dad and I both looked at the grip and said "gee that looks odd" then we picked it up. WOW. The grip ergonomics are actually quite good. The design apparently spreads more of the recoil across your entire hand vs. the classic "hog foot" curve like all dad's Blackhawks have. Also the entire frame is very light! Looks like they are doing like other gun makers and using aluminum or some other light alloy in the non-critical areas and a "sleeved" barrel. Exactly like the wife's Ruger. Seems to be the trend these days.
Action is striker-fired since as you know the bottom cylinder can't be hit with a hammer. So they developed a striker-fired setup that acts as a DA/SA action. Striker decocks very easily. The SA action is VERY smooth. Shooting at a point on the wall I can notice it doesn't jump around any in my hand. DA action is very heavy - you can tell you won't accidentally discharge it because you have to use perhaps 8 lbs? (not sure) to engage DA action.
Loading is like a single-shot... decock and release the cylinder. We loaded a pile of both 357 and 38 SPL to test out at the range after Turkey Day! :) Dad was watching a show on the Outdoor Channel that talked about recoil being as light as a .22 Magnum depending on the load (presumably talking .38 SPL loads) so we shall see. If the 2nd shot follow-up is as good as I think it will be then this will be a winner.
So now I have another gun that shoots .38 SPL rounds with the 'option' of using .357 mag. Which is why I bought it to begin with because having just one gun in the house for a certain caliber just bothers me :)
I'll be sure to post up some pics when we're at the range.
You're gonna love it. Very little muzzle flip, and as noted, recoil is mostly straight back. Just mind your grip so you don't lay a finger alongside the cylinder gap!
OK pics as promised, also a few vids to show the muzzle flip:
Overall, the pistol is a very good shooting pistol. When using the "single-action" mode (aka pre-cocked striker), we were putting them in a torso-sized group at 50 yards! Certainly good enough for hunting. This was all with 140gr .357 rounds. And correct, there's practically no muzzle flip :)
Got to handle one this week end,,,2 different models,,,
You might just as well carry an 18 wheeler,,there huge!
I Don't like them at all myself.
Same as any other full-size revolver so what? I don't intend to carry these as concealed carry so size doesn't matter. Shoot one and you might say differently ;)
I've seen some video's and heard about the light muzzle flip, but even the "small " short barrel one is bigger than my largest frame 44 mag. Way to clunky for me for a carry piece. How is the accuracy with them? I haven't heard about that part yet.
Hell I haven't even checked to see what calibers there available in. They look like a good option for hunting if there available in 44 mag. though. I don't care for the grips either, they don't fit me well at all.
I certainly don't see one in my future, I'll stick with my Super Blackhawk and my S&W 41 mag for hunting.
Hummm, first double post in a while,,,,
Yeah I agree not a concealed carry piece, although the snubby one could fit the bill. They made the cylinders flat-sided to ride better in a holster.
Originally Posted by twa2471
Accuracy is phenomenal. At the 50 yard line we were able to keep them all in a torso-sized target if we did our part. Really surprised at how accurate it is.
That grip is designed to distribute recoil forces. Doesn't dig into the heel of your palm like some pistol grips can do.
Calibers... they are listed on their site. Pretty sure they come in .357/38, .40 SW (yep) and there's also a 9mm cylinder that is supposed to be available for the .357 mag.
Thanks for the heads up on them, the ones I looked at were "straped" so I couldn't cycle the action or get a feel of the trigger or open the cylinder to inspect how it's made. I hate that when shops do that. I wouldn't buy any gun unless I could cycle it and check lock-up and cylinder end play, ect.
I was at a Cabellas one time and they wouldn't remove the strap (a simple cable tie) on a used S&W revolver I was very interested in for hunting and was seriously ready to buy. Even the department supervisor thought it was dumb and said he wouldn't buy a used gun if he couldn't check out the overall function first or be able to do a thorough inspection on it,, either. Store rules I gather. They lost the sale.
No way in Hell I'd pay >1K for a gun without doing that first myself, just cause something looks nice, don't mean it is tight or may not have issues. Guess I'm just fussy that way.