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    Default pm63 SA build in 380 :-)

    ive got this build under way & will keep you guys posted as it goes....

    but heres the starter post.

    its in 380...

    YES im using one of our TEC Tactical barrels & its gonna be striker fired.

    NO im not gonna do a postie this time.... we have plenty of posties on the roster, so no need.

    & FLemgunner already has a bunch of them built with our barrels & video'd up.
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    Haven't seen ole Flem in quite awhile. Thanks for mentioning his name. I'll be looking his youtube vids up. Thanks!

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    It would be nice to have a good frame picture with dimensions.

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    LOL yes it would... but since im a garage builder... i spaced it out with the upper & tacked it altogether... no dims here either. :-)

    so i can measure it for you, but it could still be off a few K's any direction from the original print, not that ive seen one with numbers on it.

    but once i get this mini tutorial put together i'll be able to give you some things to help you in your spacing.
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    first you guys know what these kits look like... so i'll stick the pic here (pick courtesy of apex)




    next you clean the parts... you guys have all seen this before.. nothing new here.

    next you remove the fixed firing pin & destroy that so no one can say you had a slam fire.

    next you mock it up. i always use the upper/lower whichever is not the cut piece to stage the others.. & then as DUNN mentioned ... IF there is numbers to work with i match those... if not? then i go with part fitment.. which is what happened on this.

    after some tacking & checking.. you get this.



    note: the mag & grip were still the best way to set the pistol grip section. tacked & then used a copper backer to fill in.
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    now that this was done it was all about making sure a factory upper(FA) couldnt go on it.. so yes you do a little extra welding so that the slide cant go on without alteration.

    remember your after proving intent on this..

    first step was to weld up a little more of the lower where the original sear went so that a FA one cant go in there. that pretty easy as theres not a lot of room there to spare anyway.

    next step since this was a pistol build is to make sure you cant put a rear stock on it... some MORE welding on the back & that blocks the round hole where the stock pivot went.

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    the easy part was next and that was to put our TEC Tactical barrel in and get it to twist as it should in the upper.

    Tony makes these barrels from an average lug dimension of 10 kits he bought.. so they are snug & you just have to buff the lugs a little bit to get them to slide in & out real smooth.

    another tip is to break the leading edge of the lug just a tad with a nice tiny file. how people want these barrels to fit is kinda up to each person.



    some people will want them to "free spin" in the upper ... but in the interest of non rattle i want them SNUG.

    & heres the fantastic barrel:

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    this will be for the FCG, the FP & the striker set up.

    there will be more to come on this as it goes.

    well now ive started on this, there are several ways floating around out there. however we are gonna come up with a version of our own way to do the FCG & until i know for sure whether its a service we will provide or just give it away if its too much hassle... im not gonna go into great detail on it.

    there are several paths out there already & one of those might be easier. just dont know at this point.
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    what i have started on since the denials are in all over... is the upper to the lower & hand cycling. :-)

    this is always one of my favorite parts of a build, cause if this part dont work? you have to back up & start over.

    so as expected it DOES NOT fit or slide & you have to massage it a little.



    now some people will say how did it not work when you used it as a jig? well going on there vs cycling are 2 very different things with heat/shrink & so on..

    couple hours of buffing & light file work on the grooves & rails later....


    nice hand cycle action! now you ad the recoil spring & try it again. little more fine tuning & presto! we can now let the spring cycle the gun!
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    just wanted to stop at this point & remind everyone that you cant have a vertical front grip so you need to pay real close attention to how you handle this. there are several ways to do it.

    most of us have chosen to epoxy the grip CLOSED & drill a hole thru it to be able to install it.. BUT you also have to make sure that when you remove it that no one can just stick a old style grip on it. all it takes is a few weld beads that are hidden out of site.

    insert pic of epoxy'd & drilled foregrip...

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