THE RECENT RUGER SCOUT THREAD GOT ME THINKING
LETS USE THIS THREAD FOR SCOUT IDEAS. DONT HAVE TO BE A BOLT ACTION BUT THE IDEA SHOULD BE A LIGHT WEIGHT FAST HANDELING HIGH POWER RIFLE . IT DOSENT HAVE TO HAVE A SCOUT MOUNT.
ID LIKE TO SEE A CHEAP TO BUILD IDEAS .
IM CONSIDERING A MOSIN NAGANT AS A CHEAP STARTING POINT WITH PLEANTY OF POWER AN CHEAP AMMO AVALIABLE STILL.
HERE IS A LINK OF A COOL ONE I SAW ON ANOTHER SITE. CARBON FIBER STOCK WITH A ACE FOLDER AN PISTOL GRIP. tHE GUY DID SOME NICE WORK.
ScoutRifle.org - Carbon Fiber Mosin 91/30 Scout "Babushka"
HERE ARE MY ORIGINAL IDEAS FROM THE OTHER THREAD.
I have a line on a rough barreld action for about ($50) maybe less the barrel has wear at the muzzel but breach end looks its perfect for a build like this . Im buying it either way if i can. at the bolt is worth 30 an the rest of the parts are worth another $20-$30.
Ill use the trigger It has but reworked for free. I have a dragoon ???? that has been sported with a heavy wood stock but the reworked trigger is pretty good its two stage but its crisp on the second stage do i know it can be done to be some what better than a original.
ILL likley just skelitonise a original stock i have here that was going to be scraped or add a really cheap folder or possably a really cheap ar collapsable stock ( $0 -$30)
Maybe a amd 65 stock an a pistol grip. i like the idea of a folder im aiming more for a trunk/truck/boat gun an compact is a goal also it could be shot with out the stock opend if needed in a hurry if it had a pistol grip.
Id chuck the barrel an reciver in the lathe an take off some metal on the barrel an cut it to about 16" this will lose about 2 pounds or so. cost ( $0) . If a psl in 7.62x54 can have a 23mm stub at the trunion an then reduce down to take that small RSB OD then id think a lot of metal can be pulled off a mosin barrel. Think a psl weight barrel cut to 16" on a mosin reciver.
Id thread the barrel to take a AKM muzzel device like a AMD 65 break. they work well an there ($10)
I could buy a scope mount for about $15 but Id likley just drill an tap the barrel for a rial or scope base Im thinking a NEF/H&R andi rifle rail would be just about right for about $7 im sure there are other amde to go on a round barrel just need the OD to make ther barrel fit them. hell as heavy as the barrel is you could just mill a flat on the top an screw down a flat rail.
looking at the reciver an bolt it seems that a lot of metal could be removed from it a lot of the reciver behind the lugs could be milled away have lightening groves cut in, the bolt also could go on a diet the bolt guide were the handel is attached could be reduced by about 75% in weight the part were the saftey is can also be reduced in weight. the trigger guard could be made from alunimum an also have a push button saftey added an allow the saftey knob on the bolt to be remove. the stock tang likey could be reomved or eliminated if a folder or retractable was made to fit. the magazine is heavy but with out serious mods you sort of stuck with it. the good nes is you can carry the rifle at bu the magazine box pretty easy. cost of all the reciver mod ( $0) maybe figure ($5 -$10) for messing with a light trigger guard an push button saftey. that trigger chard is a very stough heavy piece alot of metal can be removed the back is almost a 1/4" thick.
id add a bent bolt made form somthing for about $2. with a scout mount it dosent need to be bent but Im used to a bent bolt an it makes it easier to put behind a seat or in a case or scabard.
im not sure I really want a scout mount but id try it an see my mount would allow a reai to go forward or cantalever back depending on how its bolted on..
optics is going to cost you money on any thing you buy or build even if its a packace deal. so you cant really figure that in this build vs buy scenerio.
It would be interesting to see how light you can get a Mosin down to. I have a few
m44's an there not that bad as is. If i could reduce the weight an keep the balance it would be a pretty slick fast handleing kick like a mule gun. im betting i could get about 2 pounds or more off of it ( just guessing)
so Id have $50 for the barreld action ( I hope )
maybe $30 in a stock ( i have many but im figuring what its worth)
maybe $10 to make a light wieght trigger guard with a push buttion saftey not nessacary but desired
figure $ 15 in materials for a scope mount with a bolt on rail. I have a ton of 10-22 rails an other crap here so I wont need to buy any thing really
$10 misc charge for finish screws etc.
So you would have $125 total on a $50 reciver if you could find one add another $50 if you had to buy a complete rifle I think there still $100 some were . but subtract about $15-$20 for the parts you can sell of of it like the cleaning kit , stock, barrel bands, sights , etc Id likely get it built for scap an misc parts on hand for
speaking of sights Id possably want a irons on this as well so add a couple bucks fro a rear sight of some sort . Id likely just mill it into the rear rail some how an run a small hooded sight on the front. hell some of those tritium vilas would be cool on a project like this.
Yea you got to build it but it would be differant an unique an strong as hell. a sort of paratroper Mosin or tanker mosin. you would not be out much if you droped it off a cliff or it was stolen. yes a marlin can be had for about $300 but If i spent he extra on ammo i could shoot it a lot. I lkkley could build this in a a day if I had every thing laid out an ready to go better than watching TV
any cheap bolt action can go this route. i just picked up a small ring mauser for $70 there are spanish mauser barreld actions for about $125 here an there.
I like the cut down mosin in the above pic.
to bad there were not rough mosins out there cheap. they must all get parted out????