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    Does a short barreled shotgun fit the definition of Any Other Weapon? That's with no buttstock. What is the procedure for NFA approval? I had no problem with the SBR app. for a Krink. I have seen tiny shotguns at shows. Thanks


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    To my understanding, If it EVER had a buttstock it is a short barreled shotgun, and has to be registered as such ($200 transfer). However it can be registered as an AOW if it was an AOW in its original configuration, and never had a stock to start with ($5)

    Correct me if I'm wrong guys.

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    'K. I bought a 20 ga. pump in that configuration. With proper tax stamp I ought to be ok to snap that bad boy off right at the mag tube nut, eh? never had a buttstock, just a cheap plastic pistol grip. I must say, the little bastid shoots just fine.

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    Its $200 to manufacturer one either way, AOW or SBS. Its only $5 to transfer an AOW. As far as proper classification goes, the ATF is pretty good about answering those questions. I wish I could tell you better. It isn't all too clear to me. I think though that the shotgun would have to be an SBS because it was a standard title 1 firearm first.

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    I get it. I think that was the deal the guy at the show was selling. I shoulda listened more closely. Let's see if I got this right. I go to the NFA mfg. guy, transfer the gun, and have the modifications done there. Then I receive the gun by transfer from him. There are a couple guys right in the area who are class III and also build guns for people. I will consult them. thanks.

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    Dident they quit makin stuff like that in the 30s, Manufactures use to sell them as berglur guns. Whats the scup, You saying there can be had now for a $5 tax stamp? wheres my Mossburg cruser & hacksaw? just kidding.
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    If you purchased an 18+ shotgun with a pistol grip only (factory configuration) under federal law it is not a shotgun, it is just a firearm. Since it is not a shotgun cutting it down to a short bbl makes it an AOW, so no problems there.

    Fritz is correct, $200 to make, $5 to transfer. Cheapest route is usually to have a class 07/SOT manufacturer cut it down for you, the making is then tax free on his license. He can then transfer it to you for the $5 tax. Assuming he doesn't charge $195 to spin it in the lathe for 3 minutes, you can save a bunch that way.

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    the $200 making tax has to be paid, whether made by you or a gunsmith.

    do a search on the FAL Files forum legal section for FEIB-GB to get the link to the ATF classification download that discusses this in detail and includes pictures, etc.

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    the $200 making tax has to be paid, whether made by you or a gunsmith.
    As the Kernel said, an 07/SOT does not have to pay a separate fee for each unit made. Their annual fee ($1000 last time I checked) allows them to produce all they want.

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