I spoke (PM) renegadebuck the end of last week. He had some appointments this week with some people to see about producing again for him. It's a catch-22. The item is obviously quite specialized. Trying to get someone to do all that metal work and yet not charge more than people will pay for them, and still make a profit. I'm expecting an update in the next couple of days. I know it's tough waiting. But I really believe it's worth the wait. If not, I would have already purchased an MSA. Not that the MSA is a bad product, just that I believe that renegade's is better. I'm holding out. If I hear anything new I'll let you know, or I'm sure renegade will post something to all of us.