Ok guys , here you go . Title says it all , it is a working AK-74 in 9mm . And yes , I know I need to redo the dustcover [gimme a break , it's our prototype ] . Our question is this , What do we call it ? We want to give it a model name but are undecided ,actually we're arguing like schoolgirls . Give us a hand with it . Will , Matt, RJF
I'm working on doing the same thing in a .45 cal using grease gun mags I'm hoping to get it where I can use unmodified mags. But I'm looking at the reality of making my own trunion, the front one any way, this aint no simple AR convertion, mad props guys I know thats alot of work. But aint it so worth it when your done?
Have tons of fun, you making any class 2 dealer samples? Some thing like that would be fun in full auto.
I'm working on doing the same thing in a .45 cal using grease gun mags I'm hoping to get it where I can use unmodified mags. But I'm looking at the reality of making my own trunion, the front one any way, this aint no simple AR convertion, mad props guys I know thats alot of work. But aint it so worth it when your done?
FWIW - Messing around with making a new trunnion is not worth the hassle. The original trunnion is already set up with the correct alignment of the barrel and bolt. The lug on the left side of trunnion is important for stopping the carrier travel. If you rely on the barrel to stop the carrier movement, you are going to have problems with functioning (possible slam-firing and barrel pin breaking).
For the M3 mag to clear the trunnion, you will need to grind or mill the lugs out of the lower portion of the trunnion. This will let the mag slide up enough to function. The magazine is too wide to allow the proper installation of the lower trunnion rivets. I just ran a narrow line of TIG weld on the back edge of each tab between the trunnion and the receiver. This holds VERY well.
If you place the magazine too close to the breech, you will need to modify the mags for proper feeding. There needs to be a gap of 5/16" to 3/8" between the mag and the breech for the .45 to feed properly.
We do not have a timeframe on them reaching market, most of our efforts have been concentrated on our California Legal AK47 rifle, we have recently received approval on them form the California DOJ Firearms division. This will free up a bit more time to concentrate on the 9mm projects , the biggest problem it trying to keep the price of the rifle & kit as resonably low a possible.
I know the photo's at the begining of the thread are shots of your prototype, but do you have plave to scale it down in size.. 7.62x39 and 9mm are extreamy different rounds do you really need that 1,1/2 in front of the magazine, or continue to use a standard 7.62 reciever? does the piston and piston tube have to tay regulation 7.62 size.. i'm thinking there's a bit a room to work with..you could get this around the size of an HK PDW, or a bit larger.. I know proto type aside, why invent a bolt when one already exsists.. why invent a new piston tube when one exsists, etc.. but are there plans to make this a true RED Jacket Firearms model.. or just an AK conversion in 9mm..
How about you call it he "Sutchka-9"...my spelling is off 9( I don't read Russia so I had to phoneticize) but an ol demigre friend told me that is th enickname for the AKSU 74 we refer as a Krinkov.
HUMMM, I will stick with the 9mm AR15. That is a fully debugged and proven one in full production now. I have three almost four. One is for spare parts.
I guess I shouldn't call it AK- because it is not a machine gun-a real destroyer.
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