[Kevin_M4]

hey guys, been away for a while (personal crap).

working on the next build and had a question if someone knows.

got one of those AK74s' from Rapid fire (very nice kit) and I had a question about the spring and retainer pin for the folder.

after wearing my thumbs out getting the spring in between the rear trunion and over the release (is there an easier way) putting the pin in the thing it's all working right but I had to put the small pin in about the third spring wind to fit. Is that how it's supposed to go, I have never seen one with the spring on it before.

Anyone have some schematics, I fiinally found the template over on Roderus for the cut...

here's the picture of the parts in question, I left my camera at work so I can't post the results picture yet.

 

[scubadvr]

can you post the schematic you found. If we don't have it, maybe it should go in the library.

 

[Kevin_M4]

absolutely, it should be here, I think I saw it on Pookie's site, but thats gone what happened while I was away?

 

[leper]

did u ever get the sping all the way behind the pin? i did one on a -65, i used a screw driver or something to hold the spring back, then droped the pin in it's hole

 

[Kevin_M4]

yes, it's on just that it looks like it needs something else. I guess I am convinced that it's right. I would like a pic of someone else's complete assembly.
I just got my rivets yesterday and will have it all done by this time next week.
(if work doesn't get in the way)

 

[hcpookie]

QUESTION - is that an '74 kit with a folding stock????? Are those still available, and for how much?

My site iwll be back up soon... Verizon said they will have it installed or delivered next week... we'll see. The way things are going I'm expecting it will be a DOA modem. This move has been a real PITA.

Anyway, let me be sure that you are asking about that little pin in-between the L-shaped pin and the spring? It goes into that hole on the retainer pin, which compresses the spring just a little bit more. I assume they need that extra litle bit of compression since the spring has to be loose enough to insert into position.

I can appreciate your sore fingers! That spring was a real bugger to get in. My guess is there is a compression tool of some sort at the factory that squeezes the spring, then they slide it into place. I was able to "twist" the spring in from the outside by carefully using needle-nose pliers to thread it from the outside of the receiver, then twisting it the rest of the place. That way, the spring "threaded" itself into position.

hth,
- Jerry

 

[leper]

i installed my by forming it into a 'u' the ends facing straight down into the recvr, then pushing the center down...then when the spring is straight across, slid it over the holes for the locking pin. its a neat folder, good luck, and take your time

 

[leper]

kevm4,i'm in arlington, we ought to trade tools or swap parts or something sometime

 

[Kevin_M4]

it's done, well almost

sore fingers and all. That spring gets easier each time you mess with it, I finally decided the best way was to snake it over the retainer pin and push it in as best as posissible.
I parked it and riveted it last nite, (damn good park job if you ask me) and pressed the barrel this AM before work. (I am compulsive)
Anyway here's a pic of the beast minus the FCG and safety. I still need to decide what I am going to do for paint. Thats always my hardest decision.
And of course the awb and 922 compliance issues.

Jerry glad to see you back as well,here's the link to rapidfire's kits if you haven't found it.
ORF

Leper I would like to get together on a flat bending jig for my next adventure , and if you need some help I would be glad to provide.

 

[chuck1]

That spring is a royal pain in the butt isn't it. I ended up using an allen wrench on mine as a guide while I slid the sping on then after I got it in I could angle the wrench down to line it up with the holes.
That was actually the easier of the 2 for me. The forward stock retainer spring as a pain too. I had to make a replacment spring (my orginal had a little accident) which wasn't quite as small as the factory one.
Oh and nice rifle. :thumbup1:

 

[Kevin_M4]

that spring too is not the easiest, I had played with it before I riveted in the trunion and had a plan for it, I used a small file handle and pushed the tension off of it while trying to line it up in the trunion hole.

thanks