JA545 said:A friend has a ruptured disk in his back and was impressed by the lack of recoil of my Saiga 410. But like most people he thinks the 410 is a kids gun so he bought a Saiga 20 gauge. Even with light dove loads it kicked to much so he gave it to his son. Everytime we go shooting he asks me to bring my Saiga 410 as he can't shoot any of his Mauser rifles but his 6.5x55mm rifle a few rounds before it starts to hurt him. So we mostly shoot pistols and of course the soft kicking Saiga 410.