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well guys all i can say is SWEEEET!!!!. This was the first time I had the chance to test fire my screw build. everything worked smooth as glass.

The only probelm was the hammer did not cock about for times out of 30. I haven't had the chance to look at it yet but I thought I would put it out there to take advantage of the expertise.

I made sure all screws were tight before firing. I still haven't permatexed or painted. That will be after getting this little bug fixed.

Still that is one sweet weapon smooth light and no recoil to speak of. I can't wait to get this fixed and try to bump fire.
 

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A hammer not catching on the trigger sear is generally the fault of the disconnector.

With the carrier out, hold back the trigger and pull the hammer back. The hammer should lock on the disconnector and when the trigger is released the hammer should jump to the trigger sear.

A variety of things could be at fault; if you can get it to fail by hand the problem should be evident.
 

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Winn R said:
A hammer not catching on the trigger sear is generally the fault of the disconnector.

With the carrier out, hold back the trigger and pull the hammer back. The hammer should lock on the disconnector and when the trigger is released the hammer should jump to the trigger sear.

A variety of things could be at fault; if you can get it to fail by hand the problem should be evident.
Winn,

I just had the chance to check it out. Believe it or not, I think it is because i wasn't releasing the pressure of the trigger quick enough. I tested as you said and tried a bunch of different things. I kept my finger on the trigger as the carrier went forward and the hammer followed the carrier but obviously with not enough force to cause the firing pin to strike the round.

I am going to test my theory out as soon as I get a chance to get back out there. If thats the case then I will really have to learn how to shoot this one. I am telling you it was sweet. I had lightly polished the contact suraces of the trigger, hammer, hammer etc. G2 trigger smooth as glass.

I didn't expect this thing to be such a soft shooter. can't wait to get back out there.

Thanks for the input.

I will post a pic as soon as I get a final test and paint done.

Paul
 

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Lets slowdown just a touch.

Your gun should not be fired.

The hammer should stay back. There should be a spring between the trigger and disconnector, forcing the disconnector to hook the hammer when the trigger is to the rear (pulled).
 

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Winn R said:
Lets slowdown just a touch.

Your gun should not be fired.

The hammer should stay back. There should be a spring between the trigger and disconnector, forcing the disconnector to hook the hammer when the trigger is to the rear (pulled).

Winn, I was just realizing that the hammer should reset itself. Maybe I lost the spring or it is too weak. I am not at home right now and won't get a chance to check it out tell tommorrow in the AM.

Now that i think of it it did hold the hammer when I held the trigger and pushed the hammer down. when I let go of the trigger it set itself properly.

This only happens when the trigger is held and the charging handle is used to reset hammer. I think maybe the spring from the G2 set is too weak?


The other thing might be that the entire trigger is slightly off and when the charging handle functions with the trigger down the hammer just barely misses the disconnector.

tomorrow I am going to sit down and really take a good look at the mechanism.

Meanwhile anything you can give me to mull over tonight would be appreciated.

thanks
 

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WHAT WINN SAID do not run it yet. the hammer should stay back EVERY TIME.
with the dust cover off hold the trigger and pull back the bolt all the way and bring it back to the barrel. the HAMMER MUST be held back with the small hook from the back of the hammer. now let go of the trigger and the hammer should "click" forward and STOP against the hook of the trigger. This MUST happen solidly every time. again as win said their is a small spiral spring between the trigger and the small hook, to make shure it all works.

just a heads up , i attempted a home made spring once and had similar results and had some full auto running. this could have been a nightmare if it fired out of battery. CHECK IT OUT first
 

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hotbarrel said:
WHAT WINN SAID do not run it yet. the hammer should stay back EVERY TIME.
with the dust cover off hold the trigger and pull back the bolt all the way and bring it back to the barrel. the HAMMER MUST be held back with the small hook from the back of the hammer. now let go of the trigger and the hammer should "click" forward and STOP against the hook of the trigger. This MUST happen solidly every time. again as win said their is a small spiral spring between the trigger and the small hook, to make shure it all works.

just a heads up , i attempted a home made spring once and had similar results and had some full auto running. this could have been a nightmare if it fired out of battery. CHECK IT OUT first
when i get home i am going to put the original spring back under the disconnector and see if thats the problem. I remmber getting a reduced power spring from one of the sites. this was following one of the posts on how to reduce trigger slap. I think it is going tobe an easy fix. i have all the original parts from the AMD Kit and the G2 trigger.

I'll let you know how it turns out. thanks for the advise.
 

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45leadslinger said:
I think maybe the spring from the G2 set is too weak?

Meanwhile anything you can give me to mull over tonight would be appreciated.

thanks
Max was the one who said I got a boxcar load of those triggers.

But there wasn't a single spring.

You have to reuse the one from the kit. It looks like a ballpoint pen spring.

 

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Winn R said:
Max was the one who said I got a boxcar load of those triggers.

But there wasn't a single spring.

You have to reuse the one from the kit. It looks like a ballpoint pen spring.


Guys I couldn't take it. I just got home and started tweeking the AK.

Rail were not quit set right. I tapped the top rails down a bit and what do you know the thing works like a charm. I am going to look at everything tomorrow with fresh eyes as it seems the rails may be binding the carrier now but nothing major.

I have both the disconnector springs, niether was the problem.
I will check, check and recheck before next test fire.

I think youre right no disconnector springs with the G2 kit.

Funny how its the little final adjustments that will get you.

thanks again
Paul
 

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Update,

It definately was the upper rail angle causing the problem. I used the dremmel to trim the slightest bit off of each rail to reduce binding, a little Flitz to polish and its good as gold. Everything coudln't be better.

I remmber getting the reduced poser disconnetor spring from BlackJack and it does help with trigger slap and polishing contact points.
 

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Winn R said:
Max was the one who said I got a boxcar load of those triggers.

But there wasn't a single spring.

You have to reuse the one from the kit. It looks like a ballpoint pen spring.

I haven't seen a one of these springs in my kit either. My first kit, an AMD-63, I know didnt come with a spring. Does a ballpoint pen spring work fine? How much do you guys cut off it?
 

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yosuthnmasa said:
I haven't seen a one of these springs in my kit either. My first kit, an AMD-63, I know didnt come with a spring. Does a ballpoint pen spring work fine? How much do you guys cut off it?

All of my kits from centerfire came with the spring, also the polish kit I got from sportsmansguide (it is a global trades kit). If you need springs blackjack (blackjack buffers) sells a wolff spring for the fcg. I'm not sure if a ball point pen spring would work or not (though it would be a lot cheaper if it did/does).
 

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yosuthnmasa said:
I haven't seen a one of these springs in my kit either. My first kit, an AMD-63, I know didnt come with a spring. Does a ballpoint pen spring work fine? How much do you guys cut off it?
the ballpoint pen spring will not work.The spring should be there but it gets lost in the package opening ceremonies.
 

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I was having the same problems with my AMD-65 build.... turned out my upper rails were binding too much on the carrier. I took a bit off either side, now it slides freely. I hope to check it out soon.
 

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Winn R said:
the ballpoint pen spring will not work.The spring should be there but it gets lost in the package opening ceremonies.
Winn, I used one from a ballpoint and I havent had any problems yet. It did take a while to find one that fit right, but I haven't experienced any problems.
 

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