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I'm quite the fancier of anecdotes, wondering what cool ones folks out there may have. Here's one of mine, from "A Bridge Too Far":

A British battalion holding the North end of the Arnhem bridge is surrounded by the Germans, and after the third day of fighting is down to about 40 effectives. The Germans are impressed by the valiant stand of the Brits against overwhelming forces, and send a soldier under white flag to offer surrender to the Brits as an alternative to the inevitable annihilation. The German approaches the British position and calls out "Surrender!"

The British commander replies, "Sorry, there's too many of you. We wouldn't be able to guard you. You'll simply have to retreat."

A day later, after the Germans have over-run the British position, the officer is taken prisoner and he tells his German interrogator. "All right, you win. We'll accept your surrender now."
 

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Custer said:
Personal, or historical?
Makes no difference so long as it's entertaining.
 

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In my prior life I worked for the President of my company. He was famous for being a quick decision maker and quite dramatic.

We were involved in a some dicey but tiresome negotiations with a European outfit concerning buying a business and my President was getting ansty and frustrated. He was trying to force things to happen on his own timetable.

Finally, the Euopean said to him: "Mr P______, if you were the Supreme Allied Commander in WWII, the war would have ended in two weeks".

"The only problem is that I do not know which side would have won."
 

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Actually Mcaulife was quoting the reply from the "Old Guard" when they were asked to surrender at Waterloo. The word he actually used was french "Merde". The Germans knew exactly what this ment because it was the reply given to General Bleuker(sp) the German commander at Waterloo. This fact is never mentioned because most Americans don't know crap about history.
 

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There has been a long debate about what he actually said even to the extent that nuts was substituted for the F word.

I think most accounts pretty well verify he said "nuts".
 

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After being unconsious for a few days a nurse walked in as I woke up. She said," welcome back."
I said," well I ain't dead or its not as bad as my sundayschool teacher said it was going to be."
 

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Version I had read had it that when the Germans delivered a surrender offer at Bastogne, Mcaulife was pondering just how to word his refusal of the offer when one of his orderlies said, "Nuts!" and Mcaulife said that was it, to make that the response. And that it proved to be a decent piece of psychological warfare to keep the enemy off balance since it was an American colloquialism that, taken literally, made no sense whatsoever to the German commander.
 

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NUTS!" Revisited

An Interview with Lt. General Harry W. O. Kinnard
On December 16, 1944, the Germans launched their largest offensive of the war on the Western Front. The primary goals of the offensive were to capture the Belgian port of Antwerp and to drive a wedge between the British and American armies. This offensive is often referred to as the "Battle of the Bulge." It's failure was due largely to American resistance around St. Vith, on the northern shoulder of the Bulge, and by American forces holding Bastogne on the southern shoulder of the Bulge.
The town of Bastogne is strategically located at the center of the road network of the Ardennes. The Germans referred to it as a "road octopus" since the majority of roads in that region of the Ardennes pass through the town. The town's strategic location made it vitally important to the outcome of the offensive. The Allies realized its importance and General Eisenhower dispatched the 101st Airborne Division to hold the town at all costs. This victory resulted in the first full Army Division Presidential Distinguished Unit Citation. This interview focuses on the story surrounding the German's request for the American forces at Bastogne to surrender and the American General's response as witnessed by Lt. General Harry Kinnard, at the time of the siege of Bastogne, a Lt. Col. and Division G-3. These are some of his personal recollections.


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We got into Bastogne late on the night of 18 December, 1944. We were not well equipped, having just gotten out of combat in Holland. We were particularly short of winter clothing and footwear. On the 21st of December we became completely surrounded by Germans and our field hospital was overrun by a German attack. We had put the hospital in what would normally have been a safe place, but no place is safe when you are completely surrounded. At this time, we were not able to receive air resupply because the weather was absolutely frightful. It was very, very cold and snowy. Visibility was often measured in yards. Our lack of winter gear was partially offset by the citizens of Bastogne who gave us blankets and white linens that we used for camouflage.

While we were still surrounded, on the morning of December 22, a German surrender party, consisting of two officers and two NCOs, and carrying a white flag, approached our perimeter in the area of our Glider Regiment, the 327th. The party was taken to a nearby platoon command post. While the enlisted men were detained the officers were blind folded and taken to the command post of the 327th where they presented their surrender ultimatum. The ultimatum in essence said the 101st's position was hopeless and that if we elected not to surrender a lot of bad things would happen.

The message was brought in to the Division Headquarters by Major Alvin Jones, the S-3, and Colonel Harper, the Regimental Commander. They brought the message to me, the G-3 and Paul Danahy, the G-2. My first reaction was that this was a German ruse, designed to get our men out of their fox holes. But be that as it might, we agreed that we needed to take the message up the line. We took it first to the acting Chief of Staff of the Division, Lt. Col. Ned Moore. With him, we took the message to the acting Division Commander General Tony McAuliffe. Moore told General McAuliffe that we had a German surrender ultimatum. The General's first reaction was that the Germans wanted to surrender to us. Col. Moore quickly disabused him of that notion and explained that the German's demanded our surrender. When McAuliffe heard that he laughed and said: "Us surrender? Aw, nuts!" the date was December 22nd, 1944


To the U.S.A. Commander of the encircled town of Bastogne.



The fortune of war is changing. This time the U.S.A. forces in and near Bastogne have been encircled by strong German armored units. More German armored units have crossed the river Our near Ortheuville, have taken Marche and reached St. Hubert by passing through Hompre-Sibret-Tillet. Libramont is in German hands.

There is only one possibility to save the encircled U.S.A. troops from total annihilation: that is the honorable surrender of the encircled town. In order to think it over a term of two hours will be granted beginning with the presentation of this note.

If this proposal should be rejected one German Artillery Corps and six heavy A. A. Battalions are ready to annihilate the U.S.A. troops in and near Bastogne. The order for firing will be given immediately after this two hours' term.

All the serious civilian losses caused by this artillery fire would not correspond with the well known American humanity.

The German Commander.



But then McAuliffe realized that some sort of reply was in order. He pondered for a few minutes and then told the staff, "Well I don't know what to tell them." He then asked the staff what they thought, and I spoke up, saying, "That first remark of yours would be hard to beat." McAuliffe said, "What do you mean?" I answered, "Sir, you said 'Nuts'." All members of the staff enthusiastically agreed, and McAuliffe decided to send that one word, "Nuts!" back to the Germans. McAuliffe then wrote down: "To the German Commander, "Nuts!" The American Commander."

McAuliffe then asked Col. Harper to deliver the message to the Germans. Harper took the typed message back to the company command post where the two German officers were detained. Harper then told the Germans that he had the American commanders reply. The German captain then asked, "Is it written or verbal?" Harper responded that it was written and added, "I will place it in your hand."



General Anthony McAuliffe
taken on December 27th, 1944

The German major then asked, "Is the reply negative or affirmative? If it is the latter I will negotiate further."

At this time the Germans were acting in an arrogant and patronizing manner and Harper, who was starting to lose his temper, responded, "The reply is decidedly not affirmative." He then added that, "If you continue your foolish attack your losses will be tremendous."

Harper then put the German officers in a jeep and took them back to where the German enlisted men were detained. He then said to the German captain, "If you don't know what 'Nuts' means, in plain English it is the same as 'Go to Hell'. And I'll tell you something else, if you continue to attack we will kill every goddam German that tries to break into this city."

The German major and captain saluted very stiffly. The captain said, "We will kill many Americans. This is war." Harper then responded, "On your way Bud," he then said, "and good luck to you." Harper later told me he always regretted wishing them good luck.


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Sources:
Interview with General Harry O. Kinnard by Patrick O'Donnell
Rendezvous with Destiny,Rapport & Northwood
The Battered Bastards of Bastogne, George Koskimaki.
Photo through Kenneth McAuliffe
 
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