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better off today than before 08?

  • i got mo hoes and rocks than i can do!

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  • when my well-fair and food stamps kick in i'm OK--

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  • --about the same--

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  • now that i am out of the prision all is well

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  • i am digging in for hard times

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  • everything is wonderful till my Rx runs out--

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the poll question for today--

are you better off TODAY than you were before the big "O" stepped into office?

now this is not about the WORLD situation-- just about your personal state, health, economy , security , money and so on.

are YOU better off??

you can pick more than one---
 

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Digging in for hard times. The wife was finally able to get a job so two incomes is good until orders come-a-callin and we have to pack up and move again. I just hope I don't have to do anymore deployments to the Peoples' Republic of Kalifornia again. Send me to Iraq again, send me to Afghanistan again, just don't send me behind the curtain again then I will be in real trouble.
 

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digging in

I'm self employed (I have a small welding shop).
Most of my commercial sub work is for medical companies, computer companies, & the auto industry.
In Oct of 08' I was working 70+ hours a week, & making great $$.
In Nov 08' I made $395.00 for the month..
In Dec, 08' I made $350 for the month & got a shitty job, for shitty $$..
I was there for almost 2 years, until I discovered craig's list & built up a new customer base. (I bought a portable welder & took it on the road).
Since then my commercial customers have gotten busier, but there are a lot of our monthly contract jobs that have been put on hold this month until Jan 2013.
Digging in..
I'll let ya know how next month plays out
 

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diggin in... deeper than already have. nothing has changed except the color of the tool im getting "worked" by....
 

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Well on one hand.....our pain clinic has been without a doctor for three years so no meds. They hired a great new 65 year old AMERICAN Neuro Doc. After a NINE MONTH waiting list I got the call to come in. GREAT Back on the Dope & really getting around catching up projects that gathered dust & rust while I was suffering.
So....in that way I'm doing better now.
ON the other hand.......I also got the Steroid spine injections so I'm watching the news on the Menengitis!!! So far no Missouri...But do I trust them???????
It will be a cold day in hell before I get another one!!!!!
 

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Under Dear Leader, I have never been better..
Very sadly as Block Captain..
I had to report a nice young couple and their small children, for not meeting quota..
We harvested our block garden and the young one was caught stealing potatoes.
I showed the family mercy and only sent the 8 year old off too education camp...
He gets out when he is 16, the family understood..
Long live Dear Leader...
 

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Little Boy Blue,
Come blow your horn,
The sheep's in the meadow,
The cow's in the corn;
Where is that boy
Who looks after the sheep?
Under the haystack
Fast asleep.
Will you wake him?
Oh no, not I,
For if I do
He will surely cry.
 

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My personal income is down by $75K since 2008.

My Retirement savings are gone.

My Childrens' College Savings are wiped out.

My business is destroyed. Bankrupted in 2011.

Am I better off? Well, at least I'm not one of those 1% types now, so our strong black President will not take notice of me.

Am I better off? I am more concerned with whether or not I will be able to keep my house.

Regards,
 

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President has nothing to do with economic trouble. We have been riding the bubble sense the mid 80s just so that the scam of north american free trade can be implemented. Manufacturing jobs are gone long before Obama took the office.
Reason why Germany is not in depression and is still doing great, is because of their local manufacturing back bone, they make expensive stuff and export it, and lots of money moves into germany, economy grows.
If all the 'american' products are made in China and Mexico then how will US economy grow? Only the owners of those corporations will make money and not ordinary people.

My Childrens' College Savings are wiped out.

My business is destroyed. Bankrupted in 2011.
Beauty of the hard core right wing capitalism. Do you realy think that another republican will not run you out of business just because you are member of NRA? Someone does better service than you did so thats why you lost your business not because of big O. And colledge is not for everyone, somebody still has to clean the floor of that walmart.
 

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President has nothing to do with economic trouble. We have been riding the bubble sense the mid 80s just so that the scam of north american free trade can be implemented. Manufacturing jobs are gone long before Obama took the office.
Reason why Germany is not in depression and is still doing great, is because of their local manufacturing back bone, they make expensive stuff and export it, and lots of money moves into germany, economy grows.
If all the 'american' products are made in China and Mexico then how will US economy grow? Only the owners of those corporations will make money and not ordinary people.



Beauty of the hard core right wing capitalism. Do you realy think that another republican will not run you out of business just because you are member of NRA? Someone does better service than you did so thats why you lost your business not because of big O. And colledge is not for everyone, somebody still has to clean the floor of that walmart.

hell germany ain't in no great shakes, every so called german part i have got lately either has brazil or china stamped on it. last BMW in my little shop was full of--USA made parts__

from what i hear germany is in a severe recession and is flooded with immigrants from the ME and is having problems cause the rest of the EU needs a hand out and expect germany to shell out. probably got a little swept up in the euro to boot. i

BTY colledge ?? wtf?? what shift do you work at wally-world? i need a deal on some cheap socks--
 

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hell germany ain't in no great shakes, every so called german part i have got lately either has brazil or china stamped on it. last BMW in my little shop was full of--USA made parts__

from what i hear germany is in a severe recession and is flooded with immigrants from the ME and is having problems cause the rest of the EU needs a hand out and expect germany to shell out. probably got a little swept up in the euro to boot. i

BTY colledge ?? wtf?? what shift do you work at wally-world? i need a deal on some cheap socks--
With the fed giving money away,the interest I thought I would get on my savings is non existent. I don't anyone.
 

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With the fed giving money away,the interest I thought I would get on my savings is non existent. I don't anyone.

--the gov is giving away money right out of the printing press to keep rates super low.

hell if the gov let those rates jump up a point or two the gov would be DOOMED cause the debt would skyrocket--

which it is going to happen sooner or later. one day the president is going to get that phone call from CHINA! you credit card is overdrawn!
 

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--the gov is giving away money right out of the printing press to keep rates super low.

hell if the gov let those rates jump up a point or two the gov would be DOOMED cause the debt would skyrocket--

which it is going to happen sooner or later. one day the president is going to get that phone call from CHINA! you credit card is overdrawn!
They won't be very happy when helicopter ben has someone type in
$ 14,000,000,000,000 and says here you go.
 

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I have an idea.

Lets print 40 billion paper dollars per month, with no backing whatsoever, and buy a whole bunch of bad debt with it. We are talking securities and derivatives here.

And if we call it QE3 all the trendies will like the way it sounds and support it as a good idea.

By the time we are finished we will own every piece of American land, ever titled or deeded.

''and the people will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered''
 

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hell germany ain't in no great shakes, every so called german part i have got lately either has brazil or china stamped on it. last BMW in my little shop was full of--USA made parts__

from what i hear germany is in a severe recession and is flooded with immigrants from the ME and is having problems cause the rest of the EU needs a hand out and expect germany to shell out. probably got a little swept up in the euro to boot. i

BTY colledge ?? wtf?? what shift do you work at wally-world? i need a deal on some cheap socks--
Germany is not as it used to be back in 80s, they had to spend lots of money to fix eastern part, then with the EURO union scam they had to pay southern euro bums their debt.
Germany can pull out of euro today and their deutche mark would be so powerfull it would pass dollar easy. But the rich elite does not want that, they want free euro trade so that they can sell their junk around without paying any trade or import taxes.
Look at Switzerland, their frank is so strong, they are printing it and giving it out to immigrants just to devalue the frank, it sounds stupid to do that, but you know the elite people's tricks, they don't care about their people, they only care about their profits.
 

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Germany is not as it used to be back in 80s, they had to spend lots of money to fix eastern part, then with the EURO union scam they had to pay southern euro bums their debt.
Germany can pull out of euro today and their deutche mark would be so powerfull it would pass dollar easy. But the rich elite does not want that, they want free euro trade so that they can sell their junk around without paying any trade or import taxes.
Look at Switzerland, their frank is so strong, they are printing it and giving it out to immigrants just to devalue the frank, it sounds stupid to do that, but you know the elite people's tricks, they don't care about their people, they only care about their profits.
I just moved back from Germany last year. Germany does have a strong economy (compared to other EU nations). There has been discussion about going back to the Deutsche mark even when I was there. There are areas of Germany that aren't doing as well as others. Some areas have more immigrants than others, where I was at it wasn't as bad for immigrants as the larger cities in Germany. Taxes are outrageous in Germany (like most European countries). I could go on and on, but you get the point.

BTW, when were you in Germany last, and what part? I lived in the Rheinland Pfalz region. :)
 

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I just moved back from Germany last year. Germany does have a strong economy (compared to other EU nations). There has been discussion about going back to the Deutsche mark even when I was there. There are areas of Germany that aren't doing as well as others. Some areas have more immigrants than others, where I was at it wasn't as bad for immigrants as the larger cities in Germany. Taxes are outrageous in Germany (like most European countries). I could go on and on, but you get the point.

BTW, when were you in Germany last, and what part? I lived in the Rheinland Pfalz region. :)
Tanvil you are right the fed is buying foreclosed mortgages with money numbers put in a computer. The foreclosed property mortgage has some value, bought with nothing but numbers.
 

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I just moved back from Germany last year.
BTW, when were you in Germany last, and what part? I lived in the Rheinland Pfalz region. :)
'87-'93 Munchen

So I don't know how worse the things got after 93. Deutche mark was main currency in Europe, it was very stable because of the manufacturing backbone of FRG. There is a reason why the 'elite' wanted to devalue the mark, because it can't get too strong then german good would be very expensive to buy. So they just gave out the welfare to all the immigrants from the worst places of the world just pure unproductive untermenschen worse than americans, and just went south from there.
You got to have strong manufacturing jobs to grow the GDP. Just look at what happened to Detroit
 

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I'm better off now than I was 4 years ago; inspite of the chief chimp. I had burnt my mortgages long before that POS ever showed up. I've been buying other peoples' 'toys' and everything I have has the matching 'pink-slip' in my pocket. I live in S.W. Florida and most of what we eat is wild and natural. The only problem I have is replacing that $120/1000 .308 stuff I was buying back in the day.
Daddy always said it was better to be lucky than be good. I've been lucky.
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