[MAJOR PITA]

I've been thinking about buying an all-around super-accurate semi-auto or bolt action rifle, preferably in .308.

I'm becoming more and more interested in hiking and hunting and less interested in assault rifles, but I'm not too familiar with bolt action rifles. All I know is I want something accurate, light, and robust.

I lean toward a Mauser controlled-feed action, but I'll consider others. I understand the Remington model 700 and Savage model 110 series are both accurate rifles, especially in their heavier barrelled versions. I've also heard that any rifle equipped with the BOSS system can be made accurate with just about any ammo.

Any suggestions? I don't mind spending most of a Grand for a good all-around rifle, but I'm hesitant to spend more than about $1,500 for an Armalite AR-10.
Is that rifle even worth it?

I'd like my new rifle to be capable of at least MOA without having to be virtually rebuilt by a gunsmith and yet not break the bank.

What do you guys have experience with? Am I asking too much?

 

[yosuthnmasa]

MAJOR,

I bought my first deer rifle about 5 years ago. I don't claim to know much about highly accurate rifles or which ones are the best. But let me tell you about my Savage .270. I have taken more deer with this gun than any other. I put a decent scope on it zeroed her in, and took her out in the woods. I would never complain or talk trash about anyones Savage .270. For me it has been an outstanding rifle with superb bolt-action acccuracy. Its not a .308, and I'm not biased on calibers, but this is a wonderful gun!

P.S. I bought mine from a Pawn Shop used for $325, took it home and redid the stock.

 

[kpd007]

Major PITA,
I think the Savage is a great rifle, and with their new triggers they can really be nice shooters. I have Savage, Weatherby, Browning and Ruger. The most accurate of all is my M77 Ruger in .270. But the quality edge would have to go to the Browning. All were less than $600 and I have middle of the road optics on all of them (Bushnell 3200's). They all shoot MOA with my handloads and except for the WBY are all under 6 pounds. I have carried them all over. I would definately look into the new Ruger rifles with the target grey finish. They are supposed to be accurate and are built right around Six pounds. Good luck, and let us know what you go with.

 

[febisfebi]

If your looking for a semi auto ar10 style rifle you should check out the dpms lr 308. its around $825 or so from fac i believe, free floated, 24"ss barrel, etc. and many people report 1/4-1/2 moa with it, although that is not guaranteed. lots of people have found it to be more accurate than armalit's and close to/on par with knights armament. I personally have never shot it, but it certainly looks nice.

 

[MAJOR PITA]

If your looking for a semi auto ar10 style rifle you should check out the dpms lr 308. its around $825 or so from fac i believe, free floated, 24"ss barrel, etc. and many people report 1/4-1/2 moa with it, although that is not guaranteed. lots of people have found it to be more accurate than armalit's and close to/on par with knights armament. I personally have never shot it, but it certainly looks nice.

If I'm not mistaken, though, doesn't the DPMS rifle come without a dust cover over the ejection port?

Since I intend this rifle for some hunting as well as target shooting, I may get caught in bad weather occasionally. I'd rather have a dust cover over the ejection port.

 

[7.62x39]

If you decide to go with a bolt action, the Winchester model 70 and the Ruger model 77 are both accurate and relatively inexpensive.

 

[Custer]

Being a C&R guy, I have to think a good Swiss K-31 for under a hundred bucks is a steal.

 

[Sangrun Hunter]

If you want the Chevrolet of commercial hunting rifles them the Rem M700 is the way to go. All kinds of things you can do with a Rem M700 and all kinds of parts.

The other rifles mentioned are good choices too, but the M700 has lots of after market support. It might bother some though as it causes the belly button syndrome. "Everyone's got one"

 

[Toten Kopf]

I have found that the Tikka (Sako) is quite accurate and it really doesn't cost that much more than say a Remington or Winchester. The rifle is very well balanced and although it is supposed to weigh in around 8 1/2 pounds it sure doesn't feel like it (maybe it's the balance).

The price I paid was around $700.00 but the features read like a custom rifle, adjustable cheekpiece (really nice for scope work), buttstock adjusts for length of pull, buttplate adjusts up/down, left and right cant, trigger is adjustable from 6-3 lbs. The action is so smooth, I mean smooth.

So far I have only used mine for Pdogs with the longest hit at around 620 yards. Accuracy is less than MOA which really helps at the longer distances (the Pdogs get very small @ distances beyond 250-300 yds. even with a 6.5x20x50 LRT scope).

I use LC 96 Match cases (which the rifle seems to like over other brands) and 110 gr. V-Max bullets for distances out to 300 yds. Beyond that distance I use either the Sierria Palma 155 gr. or 168 gr. match bullets. All 3 bullets easliy track with ballistics programs. The rifle uses a detachable 5 round magazine which is nice when having to change ammo to meet the different distances or conditions.

Tikka has other models beside the Master Sporter that I have, but the smooth action and great accuracy are inherent.

 

[yosuthnmasa]

TK,

Very nice group you've got there!

 

[MAJOR PITA]

If you want the Chevrolet of commercial hunting rifles them the Rem M700 is the way to go. All kinds of things you can do with a Rem M700 and all kinds of parts.

The other rifles mentioned are good choices too, but the M700 has lots of after market support. It might bother some though as it causes the belly button syndrome. "Everyone's got one"

Doesn't that thin stamped blade extractor worry you a little bit, though?

I mean, that is the major hurdle to my picking the Remington. I understand that when the military modifies the Rem 100 for their M21 sniper rifle, that blade extractor is replaced by an extractor closer to the design of the Savage unit.

Other than that, you're right: the Rem 700 can't be beat for sheer aftermarket goodies.

 

[Toten Kopf]

To be honest, why would I buy a rifle that I would add after market stuff just to make it the way I want it when I can get it from the factory that way. I mean the things that really count, not the dangly/clutter crap that alot of people put on a gun because they think it looks like something RAMBO would use.

The U.S. military sniper rifles are ok but they are kinda like custom made in quantity, besides you can't buy one anyway. Just have a rifle made like it, which would cost you more than you really want to pay.

Probably the best all around rifle for accuracy/price is the Savage (even though the new adjustable trigger looks like an after thought). I don't have a Savage but I did look at them.

After shooting in rifle competition for many years, the one thing I found out, is the more the rifle adjusts to you the better you will shoot it. I have owned your run-of the-mill rifles and they just don't fit me like I would want (and I wouldn't expect them to) so then you start doing this and that to make it fit you better. That's why I try to buy a rifle that will mold to me not the other way around. Sure you are going to pay a little more but it's "ALL" factory and not aftermarket.

This is just my opinion because I've been there!!

 

[MAJOR PITA]

On another forum somebody had a lot of good things to say about the Tikka.

I don't know much about them other than they've been bought out by Sako.

Does anybody else have any experiences with Tikka rifles?

 

[Toten Kopf]

On another forum somebody had a lot of good things to say about the Tikka.

I don't know much about them other than they've been bought out by Sako.

Does anybody else have any experiences with Tikka rifles?

Sako (Tikka) was bought out by Beretta.