[yosuthnmasa]

My trigger axis pin is really low. In fact, when I drilled it, it slightly went into the bottom side of the receiver...just a hair. With such small clearances,what is the easiest way to install the shephards hook. The one that came with my kit has a spring type thing built into it. I ended up cutting it all off and made it look similar to my other ones. I'll try to get a picture of it up. I really can't afford a RSA plate right now either.

 

[Sangrun Hunter]

Hehe..... I was going ask how to installed the European Shepards hook with the spring built into it today. I took my rifle apart for cleaning 2 months ago and I cannot figure out where the spring end goes back?

My Chinese is not like that at all and I could put it back together in my sleep.

I spent about 2 hours total taking a crack at the spring thing over the weekend and finally decided I had better ask someone.

 

[Bluejack]

here is link from the chinaman.

http://www.gunsnet.net/Linx310/fcgremoval4.htm

hope this help

 

[Sangrun Hunter]

here is link from the chinaman.

http://www.gunsnet.net/Linx310/fcgremoval4.htm

hope this help

Unfortunately none of those is like the spring I have. Maybe it's time to do a simpler sheppards hook.

 

[Thanatos]

When I did my AMD-65 I didn't use the shepard's hook, instead I used a seperate "e-clip" for each pin. It seems to work fine for me. YMMV

 

[Rhino_66]

You can easily make your own retainer plate. It takes about 10 minutes and works great! Just use your receiver as a template to get the plate custom fit to your axis holes. If you have the skills to assemble your own AK, you have MORE than enough skills to make the plate.

 

[Sangrun Hunter]

When I did my AMD-65 I didn't use the shepard's hook, instead I used a seperate "e-clip" for each pin. It seems to work fine for me. YMMV

I've thought about doing that myself.l

 

[yosuthnmasa]

here is link from the chinaman.

http://www.gunsnet.net/Linx310/fcgremoval4.htm

hope this help

yeah, none of them look like these. although, I read somewhere about someone saying to just cut it to look like the 2nd or 3rd one. So, I tried that by cutting out the spring. But, it fits pretty tight and I can't get it around the trigger pin.

 

[yosuthnmasa]

When I did my AMD-65 I didn't use the shepard's hook, instead I used a seperate "e-clip" for each pin. It seems to work fine for me. YMMV

What are e-clips?

 

[yosuthnmasa]

You can easily make your own retainer plate. It takes about 10 minutes and works great! Just use your receiver as a template to get the plate custom fit to your axis holes. If you have the skills to assemble your own AK, you have MORE than enough skills to make the plate.

Where do you get your plate at? What size thickness is the metal?

 

[Sangrun Hunter]

E-clips can sometimes be called half moon clips too if that helps.

 

[erikk]

Ace hardware or just about any of the others. Ask for 7/32 e clips. It's the ONLY way to go!

 

[Winn R]

With such small clearances,what is the easiest way to install the shephards hook. .

Josh-- the method of linx310 will not work when clearances are tight (as you found out).

I've a couple like that-- sharpened the aft end and pushed it through the groove from the front. wedge from the hammer pin to the crosspin or put in a bend and jam between the hammer pin and lower rails.

 

[yosuthnmasa]

[QUOTEJosh].I'm having a hard time visualizing what you are talking about WINN.[/QUOTE]

 

[7.62x39]

What are e-clips?

E-Clip

 

[Winn R]

Sorry-- I pushed the wrong button when posting the pic above.

 

[Rhino_66]

Where do you get your plate at? What size thickness is the metal?

A quick measure of the shepard's hook wire and of the groove in an axis pin is around 0.040" and 0.050" thick. Guess how thick your receiver is... If you've got a screwed up bent-blank or flat, just use a piece of it. Thicker material will let you make a little tighter fit, but it's not critical. I just looked through the scrap pile till I found something that was the right thickness. Hobby and hardware stores usually sell small pieces of steel or brass sheet at reasonable prices. Probably $3.00 for a 8" square piece. You can make about 20 to 30 of the plates from a sheet that size.

I made mine by holding a piece of steel inside the receiver on the safety selector side and scribing the location of the small end of the axis pins. Then I cut my rough shape and fit the slots to hold the pins. I used the grooves in the pins to hold the plate to the ejector side of the receiver and scribed the hole for the safety selector. Drill the hole and deburr the thing and it's done. Total construction time was about 15 minutes and cost was ZERO (because I already had some sheet metal). The good thing is that it fits the offset safety selector hole of the OOW receiver. This method will get a perfect fit every time for whatever receiver it's for. I like the RSA idea but can't see paying for something that might not fit all receivers, especially when it takes all of 15 minutes to make one for yourself.

 

[yosuthnmasa]

:useless:

A quick measure of the shepard's hook wire and of the groove in an axis pin is around 0.040" and 0.050" thick. Guess how thick your receiver is... If you've got a screwed up bent-blank or flat, just use a piece of it. Thicker material will let you make a little tighter fit, but it's not critical. I just looked through the scrap pile till I found something that was the right thickness. Hobby and hardware stores usually sell small pieces of steel or brass sheet at reasonable prices. Probably $3.00 for a 8" square piece. You can make about 20 to 30 of the plates from a sheet that size.

I made mine by holding a piece of steel inside the receiver on the safety selector side and scribing the location of the small end of the axis pins. Then I cut my rough shape and fit the slots to hold the pins. I used the grooves in the pins to hold the plate to the ejector side of the receiver and scribed the hole for the safety selector. Drill the hole and deburr the thing and it's done. Total construction time was about 15 minutes and cost was ZERO (because I already had some sheet metal). The good thing is that it fits the offset safety selector hole of the OOW receiver. This method will get a perfect fit every time for whatever receiver it's for. I like the RSA idea but can't see paying for something that might not fit all receivers, especially when it takes all of 15 minutes to make one for yourself.

:useless: I'd love to see some pictures of it. If you did this in 15 min, I bet after you got good at it you could do it faster. You could do 20 or 30 and sell them for 3 or 4 bucks and ship them for under a dollar maybe too. Hell, if I can get it down, this would be a great service to provide for all the members here at gunco. The plates could be made to fit each type of AK. But, we might have some difficulties based on where people drill/misdrill there holes. It obviously can be done...RSA plates.

 

[Rhino_66]

I'll see if I can get a pic posted. As easy as they are to make, there's no reason not to build your own. This also gets away from any patent infringement lawsuit from RSA.

Maybe I'll make one out of stiff paper (or a manilla folder) and take pics of the process to show how I made mine. That would be a great entry for the homebuilder's library.

 

[yosuthnmasa]

Sure would.

Copy right infringement for cutting out a piece of metal and shaping it to fit around some parts?