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I was invited to a couple of Canadian Discussion Boards. I admit I was warned that there were members there who did not agree with America's administration.

So? There are people in the States who don't agree. I don't always agree with it.

It goes beyond that.

I was welcomed by several Canadians, who obviousy were pro-American. Then came a reply about how those who had greeted me were not "ordinary Canadians." Then came a littany of complaints, which I answered with facts. The United States was plunging into a Great Depression, because of Bush's deficit spending. I asked for authorities and received some pre-election editorials and a web page which simply mis-stated the deficit. I referred him to a site for currency speculation, which examined American currency and its investment value. Do you believe people who have an agenda, or people who are risking their own capital? I was stunned that Canadians could believe such a preposterous claim about a country sharing their borders. Then, came complaints about Iraq. Although, one Canadian denied relying on conspiracy theorists such as Tony Masson, Bob Swigger, and Michael Moore, another pasted - as a reply - an article by M. JUNAID ALAM, a 20 year old, antrisemitic, socialist Palestinian studying at Northwestern University. After reading some of his articles, I wondered why he wasn't working for Al Jazeera? Finally, I realized that the people who thought they were "ordinary Canadians" want to hate America, even if it means ignoring reality. My guess is the same is true in Great Britain, France, and Germany - and maybe in Blue portions of the United States?
 

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God Bless America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:salute::salute::salute::salute::salute::salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute:

That's what I've got to say about anti-americanism. We just buried a Hero in my home town today. So for anyone who is anti-American, well, a picture is worth a 1,000 words........

:bull: :bsflag: :bull: :bsflag: :bull: :bsflag: :bull: :bsflag:
 

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I'm not concerned what some foreigner thinks. :p
 

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This isn't a new attitude among Canadians. My dad was USAF stationed in Canada. He met and married my mom there. I was born at a USAF base in Newfoundland. My mom still has family there. I remember when we would go spend time during the summer. Even as a child, I remember my family and the others say how bad the "States" were and how much they couldn't stand the yanks. This was my family!! The people there resented the Americans, this was hard in elementary school. I never understood why the kids would call me a stupid yank, all the time. This was 40 years ago.
Now, I have no contact with my family there, been that way for a long time. I can't understand their attitude. Their economy depends heavily on the U.S.
It annoys me to no end..
 

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Damn, that is unfortunate. Not trying to tell you what to do, but when it all boils down all you have are your family, your belief system, and your friends.

If I was in a situation like that, breaking down the walls and re-establishing communication would be attempted. Life passes so quickly, and can be yanked away in an instant. GG

p.s. I could lend you a Jefferson quote if you want, have a couple more up my sleeve that are really cool........:D
 

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Preacher said:
God Bless America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:salute::salute::salute::salute::salute::salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute:

That's what I've got to say about anti-americanism. We just buried a Hero in my home town today. So for anyone who is anti-American, well, a picture is worth a 1,000 words........

:bull: :bsflag: :bull: :bsflag: :bull: :bsflag: :bull: :bsflag:

You said it Preacher!!!! I am with you!
 

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I've been to Ottawa and it's a beautiful country and the people are friendly, but they have some bad issues themselves. On the plane up I sat next to a French-Canadian businessman who explained the whole discrimination thing between the Anglos and the French Canadians. I learned more from that guy on a 3 hour flight than I ever knew of Canada. He also schooled me on how to handle myself among Canadians while there. Great guy and I'm glad I met him for those brief 3 hours.
 

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There were 5,000 Candians among the 6,000 man invasion force at Dieppe. 900 Candians died, 1600 were wounded, and another 2,000 taken prisoner in the ill-pplanned "Raid."

On another Gun Board, I received a PM from a French Canadian, wishing me and my family a Happy Thanksgiving. I was honored.

As stated before, foreigners seem to dislike Americans, because they perceive us as not caring about them, their history, or customs. This particular individual appreciated how I noted Canada's history of fighting for freedom. I specifically noted how valiant they fought at the so-called "Raid at Dieppe," a British planned invasion of France which failed at a heavy cost. One member's Father had fought there. His father was even used in a Recruiting Poster:



So, maybe we can bridge the anti-American gap by letting others know how we appreciate the contributions of their countries? Maybe, what others resent about America is the "All About Me" culture which our media presents?
 

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So, maybe we can bridge the anti-American gap by letting others know how we appreciate the contributions of their countries? Maybe, what others resent about America is the "All About Me" culture which our media presents?
In regard to the first question you posed, perhaps, especially in such a small setting as a bulletin board. Finding common ground is the key to diplomacy. On a larger international scale, just look at the people who pay no attention to what happened last week, much less 40 or 100 years ago. Another question regarding foreigners on the subject of anti-American sentiment would be who's listening? Us for the most part. We're the only ones who'll find it uncomfortable, unfair and might question their rationale. Many foreign countries lack a free press where the thoughts and opinions of individuals are acknowledged but with the internet they now have some form of outlet. I'm sure our media no doubt plays a role in some aspects of anti-American sentiment. We Americans tend to have all sorts of issues with our media, it stands to reason others would too. I think it works both ways, Al Jazeera has certainly increased some anti-Arab sentiment here in the U.S. since 9/11 and even more so since the recent terrorist beheading videos.

I used to hit quite a few forums with a large European membership and the anti-American sentiment was overwhelming. I came to the conclusion--and this is only my opinion--that most anti-American sentiment comes from plain ol' jealousy more than anything else. Freedom of speech, freedom to worship as we please, the right to bear arms, and the list goes on....They just don't have what we have.

Personally I think I'd be jealous too.:wink:
 

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I studied Canada a bit. Much different history than ours. Many Loyalist Tories left the US after the Revolutionary War, similar to the migration of draft dodgers in the 60s-70s. So, they've received some of our own who resent the US. I think they also have a national identity problem. They've struggled with the French Canadian/Anglo Canadian issue forever. They say they are all "Canadians" now, and deny differences. Still its hard to share a national identity without sharing a national language.

It was interesting to see how concerned they were about our "Civil War." Secretary of State Seward had discussed incorporating Canada into the US, and Canadians wondered what the US would do with its big army once the South had been defeated. Other countries have shared the same concern. Mexico wasn't annexed after the Mexican War, because of slavery issues in Congress. The Platt Amendment would have annexed Cuba. Could you imagine how screwed up our country would be if it included Mexico, Canada, and Cuba? I guess Cuba would be a Red State?

Don't think Canada and the US will be much more than trading partners who tolerate one another, more like cousins than brothers.
 

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I live near the border city of Buffalo, NY, and having spent my fair share of time in the great white north, I find just as many good and bad people up there as I do in the States. Just depends on the individual I figure. Tell you one thing, they make some great beer up there!:thumbup1:
 

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I used to do a fair amount of work up in London, Ontario area often dealing with various Canadian ministries (government regulatory agencies).

As bad as our government is in regulating every aspect of life, they are like US Federal agencies on steroids.

My impression was that Canadians were very accepting of this control while Americans were not although I think we clearly trending that way now.
 
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