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I have squeezed and gotten many quotes. the lowest cost for the jig would be $150 plus shipping. As it is it will not bend the top rails of any of the prefab flats out there. However we have made an option to add to it that does the top rails perfectly. Utilizing both, a flat can be bent in 5 minutes and it is right. Should anyone be interested, I will post pics of the top bender, it will be 4$0 plus shipping.

I apologize for the delay.
 

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So it is $150 for the basic jig that doesn't do rails, but with the addition of the other jig you can bend the rails and it costs $40. So a total of $190 plus shipping? When will it be available?
 

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Someone here is in it for the money. I can see it already.
 

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Am I expected to build these for anyone for free? There is very little money being made on these. When the man hours are calculated in, burger flippers at mickey dees make more per hour.
 

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Custom jigs and tooling tend to be a very expensive commodity. They generally require a skilled designer and expensive manufacturing, among other things.

Lets all have a few beers! :cheers:

Congratulations on your design of the new jig Bama!
 

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I want everyone to think about one thing. You can go to your local FFL and buy an AK Receiver for around $59.99(thats what I spent) rails, center post, hardened, coated is already finished. Why would you want to spend $190.00 + on a jig just to bend maybe 2 or 3 flats. The bend on the flats are easy compared to having each one completely finished. All Im saying is......in the long haul building one from a flat is not that easy as compared to buying one through your FFL------Unless ya'll are criminals or something. Just something to think about before you spend a few hundred dollars and end up screwing up 1 or 2 flats in the process.
 

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While that is true, some people have the ability to build thing for themselvesand may actually want to build more than 2 or 3. All of this is a perfectly leagal endeavor. You can build (or assemble if you can't build) all of the guns that you want to over your lifetime.
 

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Your exactly right. Just want the newbies to think about what it will cost them and the time involved in building one. I know and you know but they dont. I met a guy this morning on accident......turns out he has his own shop and has cnc, oven, everything you can think of. He told me to come back in the morning and bring him my flats and he will make me something to bend them with. Im going back saturday morning with my flats. I have total of 10 flats. Once they are bent Im donating my jig to this forum to help out the people that cant afford one.:thumbup1:
 

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mbadboyz said:
I want everyone to think about one thing. You can go to your local FFL and buy an AK Receiver for around $59.99(thats what I spent) rails, center post, hardened, coated is already finished. Why would you want to spend $190.00 + on a jig just to bend maybe 2 or 3 flats. The bend on the flats are easy compared to having each one completely finished. All Im saying is......in the long haul building one from a flat is not that easy as compared to buying one through your FFL------Unless ya'll are criminals or something. Just something to think about.
I think what you fail to recognize is that for most of here the fabrication is what it's all about.
Everybody needs a hobby, to us it's the actual building of a rifle, as opposed to the mere Assembly of a bunch of store bought parts.

If all you are interested in is quick and cheap, just go buy yourself a SAR and avoid the build all together.
We do not condone any illegal activities here, but am I happy that I don't have to go through a FFL in order to build one from scratch?
Of course I am, that's another $20 or $30 in my pocket.

I don't know how much R&D or fab work you've done, but if you can turn out a jig that works for less money, I would love to see it, hell, I'd even buy one.

There are many, many hours and more than a few failures involved in designing something like this.

Look what happened to W. Morgan when he tried to offer these.
 

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When Im done with it, I will raffle it off for free. Please send your email address if you would like to be in the drawing for a free JIG. September 1st I will announce the winner of the free jig and I will even pay for the postage to their house.
 

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mbadboyz,
A little FYI. This is my first build. This jig is fool proof. I am thinking about getting my 5 year old son to bend one so that everyone can see how easy it is. Went through a butt load of tapco flats perfecting this one. Would have to sell around 50 jigs before I even reach the break even point in materials for the r&d. The r&d time is just lost time. I am a toolmaker by trade and I lay awake at night trying to figure things out.
If I knew a big bosomed blonde I would get her to use it to demonstrate the simplicity.
 

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BamaSam said:
mbadboyz,
A little FYI. This is my first build. This jig is fool proof. I am thinking about getting my 5 year old son to bend one so that everyone can see how easy it is.

LOL. Im all for it! This gun building is a hobby for me as well. I have already built an AMD from a purchased receiver. It was fairly easy and I would like a tougher project for my next one. I plan on using a flat receiver, bending it, welding the center support and using rivits for the final assembly. When all finished, coating it. I would like to see pictures of your son bending these flats. Quality time with your 5 year old son.........PRICELESS
 

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Am I expected to build these for anyone for free? There is very little money being made on these. When the man hours are calculated in, burger flippers at mickey dees make more per hour.
It is great to see someone putting in the effort to design a great product. I am sure it is a bargain at $190.00 for the complete set. I already am 50% complete with my jig and the cost of materials, time on the milling machine and screw ups probably went over your completed price already.
How soon everybody forgets that just a year ago the only flat bending jig available cost $500.00. The fact of the matter is that for every $59.00 receiver you buy, there is usually a $25.00 (or more) transfer fee attached by the FFL dealer. I have 8 builds now, so I could have bent my own flats for the cost of the transfer fees. Keep up the good work. I hope that you sell a bunch of them......and put me in for the free drawing....just in case I finally give my design a pitch!
 

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Someone asked me today why we dont just use a Bending Brake to bend the flat? Has anyone here tried it? Can someone answer that for me?
 
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