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First Attempt, Romak 3 questions.

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OK guys, I'm almost ready to assemble my first parts kit rifle. I got a Romak 3 parts kit and a "Dragunov" receiver. I've been reading Gunco til my eyes are bloodshot. (By the way, I love this place!) I've bought and modified a pair of HF 24" bolt cutters. (HF has a store 5 minutes from my house!) I got a "AK" rivet set with the receiver but they aren't right so I'm using them to practice with. I'm now waiting for rivets from K-Var and I have a few questions.

1. The holes for the front trunnion line up on one side of the receiver but are off by about 1/32 on the other side. Should I just enlarge the receiver holes to match the trunnion?

2. The 8x42D scope I just got from Tantal has the SVD style clamp but won't fit the mount on the receiver. But, it does fit the mount that was loose in the parts kit. Should I try to grind off the receiver scope rail and replace it?

3. The FCG parts are very sloppy, and at this point won't even work without jiggling them around. :bawling: How good are the "US Made G2" double hook FCG's. Should I just bite the bullet and order a Red Star Arms FCG?

I'll probably have more questions, but for now, Thanks.
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Thanks for the headspace tips. I had come up with about the same idea. I didn't remove the firing pin though. Is this a safety issue, or will it affect the measurement? I used a piece of .004 and a piece of .0075 shim stock. I couldn't close the bolt on either. It will close easily on a cartridge with no shim stock though. I read on one of the milsurp websites that the difference between go and nogo for the NATO 7.62x51 is .004. That is why I tried the sizes I did. The Romak headspaces on the rim, but I think this method will work for rimless cartridges too.

I have an additional step I'm considering. Since I reload, I've used cartridge length gauges to check my finished cartridges. Here is one for 7.62x39.

On the end of these gauges is a step. The finished cartridge length, from the mid-shoulder to the base must fall inside the step. This, I'm sure, is directly related to SAAMI headspace. My idea is to try different thickness shims on a particular resized and unloaded case until I'm even with the top of the step. This is the maximum length a cartridge is allowed to be. It probably is the same as a no-go gauge. In my opinion, this is the critical length. If I add shim thickness beyond this and still close the bolt, I probably have an issue. If I knew the difference between no-go and field gauges, I could shim out to that value. If factory ammo gauges OK, and chambers easily, I'd think a go gauge would be unnecessary. I'm considering this instead of buying go no-go gauges because a cartridge gauge is only 16 bucks, and I need one to reload that caliber anyway. The only problem I see so far is interference from the extractor claw. Removing it would simplify things.
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You guys are killing me with those avatars. Here, I've convinced my wife that making my own assault rifles is a wholesome, all American, hobby, then ... well, all I can say is, If I catch it, I'm blaming you guys.

I've got three coats of the thin tung oil, and another three of the Homer Formby's on there. I've assembled the rifle now, so I'll probably wax it now and call it good.
Ready for the Range!!!

Well, Here it is. The stock had many smudgy hand prints on it in this pic. The rifle was a gift to my son, and he handled it quite a bit before I got this pic. I'm hoping to get to the range in a day or two. I'll post results. I'm a little concerned about the scope rails, they look like they're angled down slightly. There was one last little gotcha on the receiver. As I was putting on the butt stock, I tried to put in the screw than runs up through the pistol grip and there was no hole in the receiver. Nothing a 1/4" drill bit couldn't handle.

Oh yeah, I checked the label on the RIT dye, it was the Dark Brown.

Thanks to everyone for tips and advice!!:thankyou:


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Range Report:

Flawless operation by receiver. Man does this rifle launch the brass. The 8x42 scope was nice! The combination of the spring loaded buttplate and the compensator make this 7.62x54R a pure pleasure to shoot! I was shooting the Wolf 148gr. Wearing only a T-shirt, no chicken pad, it punishes less than 7.62x39. (IMO)

I had two issues. I can solve both, but would appreciate input.

1. FCG is gritty and creepy. I've polished the FCG on my SAR-1 and figure to do the same here. Is there any thing I should know that is different?

2. The compensator kept coming loose. The retainer pin from the front sight block is too high above the barrel to engage the notches in the comp. The comp almost seems to be too small a diameter. I can loctite the comp, or try to modify the pin to work better. Any suggestions?

Once I settled in and started concentrating, I was putting groups of 3 or 4 within 2 MOA. I was waiting in between groups 5 to 10 minutes for cooling, but it was hard to wait. I feel sure that cleaning up the FCG will improve groups.
Thanks for all of the input!! This forum, kept frustration to zero. I can't wait to get going on the AMD65 and the plum 74 I got from DPH.
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Cool, thanks for all the info, it will be easier when I pick up my own kit. I hope that's soon :).
Rhino_66 said:
You're not using satin tung oil are you? :rolleyes: Seriously, I had to return the second bottle of oil that I bought because I grabbed satin by mistake. Duh...

It could depend on how you're applying the oil. I did my stock set with a heavy coat of oil initially without wiping too much off. The second and third coats were really heavy and buffed with 0000 steel wool between coats. If you put the oil on too thin, you will not make any progress as the oil won't fill in even the tiny scratches from the steel wool and it will leave a satin finish. You need to wipe or brush on at least one heavy coat. When you do this, keep rotating the part to prevent the oil from running or sagging. You will need to keep continuously turning the part for about 15 or 20 minutes. I usually sit down and watch something on TV while I'm turning the part. Work over a drop cloth! If you're married, make sure she doesn't know about this...

You could also try more thin coats without scuffing with steel wool between them. Eventually the oil will fill in the scratches and give you a glossy finish.

If you put on a heavy coat and keep it from running or sagging, you can get a finish that is like glass. The Romak stock set in this picture turned out fairly well, but I have a milled AK set that looks like it's still wet.
I need that buttstock Buddy.

But gosh darn it you went and buried it in heavy Poly now will have to take

the stipper to it.

Gosh darn it.

All kidding aside looks good I have a buttstock on the way removed all the orginial poly from upper and lower handguards and will give it a coat of red dye and some tung oil same for buttstock when it gets here.

I like it a little darker.

So will keep an eye on yours here is mine at begining.
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bbowling said:
OK Rhino, you showed me yours, so now I'll show you mine. Thanks for the tip on the tung oil type. I still don't know what I started with, but as you can see, the Homer Formby's high gloss tung oil finish will definitely shine.
That is a great job can't wait to show you mine:lame:

Okay but will be red.

Did you use the old rit dye thing?


Ps all nice jobs.
anybody think of having them parked?
might on mine just for the hell of it.
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